Grzegorz Ochman
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I had a friend on Facebook who is an ex-journalist. He was my friend with whom I debated philosophy and many interesting topics. But he was believing mainstream propaganda, like nonsense about Trump and Putin and everything else. We were debating those topics, I was showing him proof and truth about lies which he believed in.
He was writing posts attacking Trump and Putin on which I commented pointing out misconceptions and double standards with regards to his accusations. He was constantly accusing me of “red herring” for showing him his double standards and his misconceptions. I was trying to show him and explain to him his double standards and the McCarthyism he was perpetuating.
An example of such things includes accusing Putin of war crimes and prosecute and convict him in an international court, I was pointing out Bush and Blair committed a lot worse crimes and they are now getting peace prizes and medals in the West. Things like the fact that there is no freedom of speech in Russia and accuse them of lack of free speech while we prosecute Assange. He was resistant to facts like Patenti said:
“Now if people cannot challenge the validity of the evidence you present, they have fallback positions.”
He was showing Superpatriotism as Parenti called it, describing a stance that Chomsky explains in this quote:
“It’s only terrorism if they do it to us. When we do much worse to them, it’s not terrorism.”
― Noam Chomsky, Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda
Back to the stupid beliefs in what Parenti shows in this quote:
“if you think these people are stupid you’re being a bit stupid” -Michael Parenti
His last post accused Trump of being evil and deserving prosecution for possession of classified documentation, on which I commented with this link to this article:
The FBI searched Biden’s home and found more classified documents
President Biden’s personal lawyers had already searched his Wilmington home for classified documents. The FBI did another search and found still more, some dating back to Biden’s time in the Senate.
For this I got accused of red herring and got blocked while I was writing a response to him which he will not see because I can’t contact him now. Here is what I wanted to write to him:
“I’m sorry you feel so. I just wanted to point out the double standard they want prosecute Trump for having classified documents while Biden also was in possession of classified documents but he is not being prosecuted. I told you I hate Trump. He is stupid. I am socialist and Trump is a liberal, he is against socialists. I see it as Trump being stupid and not understanding how Western imperialism worked, because of that he helped leftist cause by dismantling Western imperialist empire not because he wanted to but because he didn’t understand it. I wanted to write a post comparing him to Kennedy who was probably assassinated by the CIA because he intentionally opposed Western imperialist empire so he had to be killed. Trump did the same thing but unlike Kennedy Trump didn’t do it intentionally but because he is stupid and didn’t understand how things works, but it doesn’t matter why he did it, what mattered was that he did things for good causes. Kennedy was physically assassinated while Trump was character assassinated.”
I am losing hope, the will to fight, and my own Father thinks I am crazy. People are literally resistant to facts and reality and exhibit blind believe as Parenti explained:
“If you’re engaged in political discourse and political struggle as I am all the time, in political communication you realize that you’re not doing politics. You’re doing religion, it’s religion you’re dealing with because you’re dealing with belief and it’s and it’s hard it’s a rough deal.”
— Michael Parenti
I don’t know how to fight back, how to fight those blind beliefs people exhibit. What can I do when they are resistant to fact and reality instead of understanding stuff they literally blindly believe stuff. I was motivated by quotes like those of Chomsky, Parenti and Huxley:
“It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose lies.”
― Noam Chomsky
“Responsibility I believe accrues through privilege. People like you and me have an unbelievable amount of privilege and therefore we have a huge amount of responsibility. We live in free societies where we are not afraid of the police; we have extraordinary wealth available to us by global standards. If you have those things, then you have the kind of responsibility that a person does not have if he or she is slaving seventy hours a week to put food on the table; a responsibility at the very least to inform yourself about power. Beyond that, it is a question of whether you believe in moral certainties or not.”
― Noam Chomsky
“Optimism is a strategy for making a better future. Because unless you believe that the future can be better, you are unlikely to step up and take responsibility for making it so.”
― Noam Chomsky
“…people have those gripes and they have a semi awareness of it but the thing of putting it together and directing it toward actual issues and describing it and being able to detect the lies, that they’re telling us and how they manipulate what are called cultural issues or identity issues to get you not to look at your own straight bread-and-butter economic issues. That’s a job that I try to do, which I don’t do very well because I write books about it. Well who the hell in America reads books, right it’s ridiculous.”
― Michael Parenti
People have those gripes and they have a semi awareness of it but the thing of putting it together and directing it toward actual issues and describing it and being able to detect the lies, that they’re telling us and how they manipulate what are called cultural issues or identity issues to get you not to look at your own straight bread-and-butter economic issues. That’s a job that I try to do, which I don’t do very well because I write posts/articles about it. Well who the hell in the West reads posts/articles, right it’s ridiculous. ;(
“Meanwhile there is still some freedom left in the world. Many young people, it is true, do not seem to value freedom. But some of us still believe that, without freedom, human beings cannot become fully human and that freedom is therefore supremely valuable. Perhaps the forces that now menace freedom are too strong to be resisted for very long. It is still our duty to do whatever we can to resist them.”
― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited
But maybe Huxley was right and it’s really too late for humanity and I am losing the will to fight. ;(
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Had it happen to me recently. People hate being confronted with arguments that question or even prove wrong their long-held beliefs. They perceive it as defeat, not as an opportunity to bring their views in line with the facts. Doing so requires a degree of mental flexibility many people do not have–they will sooner negate facts than accept “defeat”. Think of the priest Galileo asked to look into a telescope to prove the universe was not geocentric but heliocentric–the priest refused. He refused because otherwise he would have had to give up on his belief held also by most of… Read more »
“Arthur Schopenhauer once said, “All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
― Donald E. Scott, The Electric Sky
my people watch msnbc all day and think im crazy too.. they say nothing i find online is from a “reliable source” and i literally want to shake the life out of them.. its very frustrating. i am hoping for some sort of event to occur that either i have predicted, or that is so obviously a lie, even they can no longer deny it.
good luck and welcome to the club. reality makes for a lonely existence.
“Do you really trust U.S. leaders and the corporate own U.S. news media? I said to a friend of mine: the Serbian news source on the internet said that cluster bombs are being used. He said: Oh, you are trusting Serbian sources? I said: Which, what sources are you trusting? you’re trusting, Bill Clinton sources? Oh Bill Clinton wouldn’t lie to us would he? Bill Clinton lied to us. It turns out they are using cluster bombs, it turns out they are using depleted uranium, our own government now says it! You trust their stories, you remember the 500 premature… Read more »
https://theduran.com/do-you-really-trust-u-s-leaders-and-the-corporate-own-u-s-news-media-michael-parent-world-of-the-naive-created-by-propaganda/
“I am hoping for some sort of event to occur that either i have predicted, or that is so obviously a lie, even they can no longer deny it.” Same. I hope my prediction regarding Polish intervention in Ukraine will be that prediction and obvious lie of Nord Stream and its similarity to 9/11 will open people’s eyes. But just like 9/11 the Nord Stream lie can’t be questioned and the truth about it can’t be discussed. The fact the biggest act of terrorism on infrastructure in history is not examined and answered and even can’t be talked about should… Read more »
“”There’s none so blind as those who will not see” is a proverb that has been traced back to John Heywood in 1546.
The proverb resembles the Biblical verse of Jeremiah 5:21, which describes those who are unwilling to acknowledge the truths of the world, leaving them ignorant and morally impaired. The proverb means that understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to be ignorant.”
Don’t worry, you’re not alone.
The main object of the MSM is to engender hatred, so it says more about the personality of someone who fully compliant. You’re better off without them.
There’s only so much anyone can say or do for the lost. When they prefer to bask in ignorance rather than uncomfortable truths then you’re simply wasting your time trying to convince them otherwise. Better to focus your energy elsewhere.
But if we won’t show them the truth we will not change the world for the better.
“It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose lies.”
― Noam Chomsky
We need to open people’s eyes to the truth otherwise the world will stay SHIT as it is or even get worse!
“The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance.”
― Socrates
“It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose lies.” ― Noam Chomsky.
Noam Chomsky should take a leaf out of his own book, and expose his own kiddy fiddling with his Mossad comrade Jeffrey Epstein.
I agree with Parenti that Chomsky is wrong with regards to some things but we can’t take from his other works that are good.
“This explains why somebody like Noam Chomsky who does very good and very valuable work, this is not to take away anything from him in other areas but I’ve had differences with him over the JFK assassination.”
― Michael Parenti
In cases like this we have two choices. One is to avoid any subjects on which we can’t agree and the second one is to part company.
I have a friend who is a lovely person, and it’s not that she contests what I could discuss with her…she’s just not interested. I value her friendship and the kind things she has done over the years, so we talk about other things.
But if we won’t show them the truth we will not change the world for the better.
“It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose lies.”
― Noam Chomsky
We need to open people’s eyes to the truth otherwise the world will stay SHIT as it is or even get worse!
“The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance.”
― Socrates
‘If we won’t show them the truth we will not change the world for the better’. Don’t you think that’s a bit arrogant? Foisting our opinions on other people just makes then more defensive and if you’re both intent on changing each other’s views, you’re only going to raise your blood pressure.
I am not forcing my opinion but showing facts.
“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”
― Daniel Patrick Moynihan
For example: You can have opinion should have US government blow up Nord Stream, you can have opinion was US blowing Nord Stream a good thing, but you are not entitled to denying fact they did.
Absolutely
“I told you I hate Trump. He is stupid. I am socialist and Trump is a liberal, he is against socialists. I see it as Trump being stupid and not understanding how Western imperialism worked, because of that he helped leftist cause by dismantling Western imperialist empire not because he wanted to but because he didn’t understand it.” Donald Trump certainly did not dismantle the “Western imperialist empire”, on the contrary, he did much to keep the American Empire in place, by committing a war crime in his unprovoked missile attack on Syria and his assassination of General Soleimani, because… Read more »
“I am socialist and Trump is a liberal, he is against socialists.”
Secondly, there may be a dictionary definitional difference between Socialist and Liberal, but in Weimar America they mean the same thing, as they are simply different flavours of communism in Weimar America.
There are no socialist in the US. There is only identity politics disguised as socialism. You can say I am conservatist with regards to ideology, I am socialist only with regards to economics. So I wonder what socialist or marxist in the US you speak about. In the US rainbow flag and Green flag so LGBTQ+ and Green transformation ideology and agenda is called socialism.
“I am socialist only with regards to economics.” There is no difference between Socialist and Capitalist economics, as even in the Soviet Union, the Gosbank and Sperbank charged Interest on monies, which is the same demonic trick that was played in the Capitalist west. In contrast, in National Socialist Germany, Usury was outlawed as was interest, and Interest is the unholy trick that keeps us all as slaves to the money creators and lenders as in the Synagogue of Satan. I will give you an analogy of Socialism. Think back to when you where in school, and how would you… Read more »
He did for example by fuck with NATO and many other things, it’s wast well described by son of Patenri in video in one of my posts. That’s why deep state fuck with him.
https://theduran.com/true-story-of-trump-akin-to-a-toddler-with-a-hammer-going-through-the-living-room-hitting-stuff-this-is-how-the-real-world-looks-like/
Facebook? There’s ya problem. Lol. Send me an email any time if you feel down. God bless.
“I am losing hope, the will to fight, and my own Father thinks I am crazy. People are literally resistant to facts and reality and exhibit blind believe. Many young people, it is true, do not seem to value freedom. But some of us still believe that, without freedom, human beings cannot become fully human and that freedom is therefore supremely valuable. Perhaps the forces that now menace freedom are too strong to be resisted for very long. It is still our duty to do whatever we can to resist them.” Maybe Huxley was right and it’s really too late… Read more »
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink…
Truth is a lonely companion
Yes, but if he will not drink he will die and if we will not make them realize the truth they will let the world get destroyed.
People of similar class background and ethnic background can always get along no matter their beliefs.
There can be no true friendship with class enemies.
They can but the goal of the ruling class is to create division and make people of the same class fight each other instead of joining forces in fighting oligarchy. “What he’s talking about is that they talk about woke politics and identity politics because they don’t want you to talk about the economic issues that are ruining everybody. So they want you to get hating half the country and keeping your ire for your neighbor instead of putting your interests of joining with your neighbor and putting your ire on the oligarchy. “What we’d like to say, the American… Read more »
Hate of Jews is a good unifying topic between far right and far left IMO. Only comprador bourgeoise and cosmopolitans love Jews.
I agree that a lot of people have blind faith and treat politics as religious belief. The other thing I find in a lot of commentaries and MSM is that they are very words centric and the narratives are almost designed to confuse and misinform.
Unless you have some critical thinking ability, it would be easy to be mislead. Also, some people have difficulty with evidence provided in numerical formats such as graphs, charts, statistical data, probabilities etc.
If your there I need you to come to immigration