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Exit Followed By Bear: Russia Drives Away British Destroyer From Sevastopol. Berlin & Paris Talk to Moscow

Exit Followed By Bear: Russia Drives Away British Destroyer From Sevastopol. Berlin & Paris Talk to Moscow

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Arthur Firth
Arthur Firth
June 24, 2021

Nice socks. You are my staple for global politics. Thank you. I have watched your journalism get stronger as the truth becomes more evident over the last couple of years.

Luka-The-K9
Reply to  Arthur Firth
June 24, 2021

The Duran do a good job, as far as they go.

Combine the Anglo Greek team, the Duran, with the allied N Atlantic team.

viz. “ukcolumn.org”

Arthur Firth
Arthur Firth
Reply to  Luka-The-K9
June 24, 2021

Thanks, I am Canadian, my formative years were spent in the Yorkshire Dales. The “First Domino” in the US election audits is about to fall in Arizona.

Deroudilhe
Deroudilhe
June 24, 2021

Vlad is very kind.
Should have sunk HMS

Helga I. Fellay
Helga I. Fellay
Reply to  Deroudilhe
June 24, 2021

Vlad is very intelligent. Don’t know if he is kind or not. But if he had sunk HMS, he would have played into the hands of the Empire by giving them the reaction they were trying to trick him into. He would have given them a credible pretext for starting a “defensive” war against “Russian aggression.”

Ugh...
Ugh...
Reply to  Deroudilhe
June 25, 2021

Vladislav= Vlad
Vladimir= Vova

To call someone like that, and you don’t know them as a friend, is insulting.

Chief Bearpaw
Chief Bearpaw
Reply to  Ugh...
June 26, 2021

Don’t confuse western minds. They’re confused enough as it is.

Ozymandias
Ozymandias
Reply to  Ugh...
June 27, 2021

Mr Putin or the president of Russia.. Official titles only…Okydoaky..👍

Kevin
Kevin
June 24, 2021

MSM has hyped “Russia stages carrier strike exercise near Hawaii” meme lately (in order to justify incursion near Sebastopol?).

Charge of the Light-Headed Brigade
Charge of the Light-Headed Brigade
Reply to  Kevin
June 26, 2021

The Brits fired warning shots at a Spanish warship near Gibraltar a few years back. What do these thick-headed Brits not understand about such things? Seems their leaders all scored in the lowest 1% on the analogies section of their Brit GRE equivalents.

Daily Mail comments reader
Daily Mail comments reader
Reply to  Charge of the Light-Headed Brigade
June 26, 2021

British Imperial attitudes reductio ad current leadership absurdum …..the world is their bathtub and they can float their rubber duckies anywhere they like.

Ergo: the rules-based disorder
Ergo: the rules-based disorder
Reply to  Charge of the Light-Headed Brigade
June 26, 2021

“Spain insists on a bilateral agreement with the UK over sovereignty, whereas the UK will only discuss sovereignty if Gibraltar is included in the discussions.”

Sounds much like Russia’s position on the Donbass Republics, as incorporated in Minsk II and codified by unanimous vote in UNSC Res. 2202.

What DOESN’T the US,UK,EU, let alone UA get, or want to get, about the Donbass? Hmmm?

Scoundrels, nothing more to be said.

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Hmmm
Hmmm
Reply to  Ergo: the rules-based disorder
June 27, 2021

Pounding it into their heads with a 10 lb mallet might do the trick.

Dwight Clark
Dwight Clark
June 24, 2021

Behdety Affluent, I accept your Statesman explanation in regards to HMS Defender, a state of the art Destroyer, that there was a break down in communications at such a critical time. The Captain being overly disciplined as not to confirm these types of orders, a duty full servant. My real hope is that pendulum council was not used to feed into this. I present such council as Macro for the respondent to consider there after, not generally as a dictate. Respects and Gratitude for your efforts. Babi bolted on the doors in india, Meera, opened up..Rama a Sun in the… Read more »

Playing Close to the Vest
Playing Close to the Vest
June 24, 2021

I prefer fact to speculation but in this case, some questions have been gently chipping at my noggin. Why didn’t the Russians pull a Donald Cook on this vessel? 1) Maybe it wasn’t all that it was hyped to be to begin with or 2) If it was, then would it not be prudent of NATO to outfit a vessel with all sorts of sensors, electronics etc. etc and lure the Russians into disabling it, or trying at least and collecting all sorts of valuable data along the way? If this was in fact the scenario, were the Russians too… Read more »

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Helga I. Fellay
Helga I. Fellay
Reply to  Playing Close to the Vest
June 24, 2021

yes, the Russians are too smart to fall for any of the tricks our geniuses in the West are able to come up with. See my comment above.

Chosen Few
Chosen Few
Reply to  Playing Close to the Vest
June 25, 2021

Why play the same hand twice … The Donald Cook was to Russia a validation of the vulnerability… The data was obtained and will be both analysed and improved as to use during a conflict situation… Return to ramming … they don’t like that as that says you were caught trolling in our territory…

Jonathan Jarvis
Jonathan Jarvis
Reply to  Playing Close to the Vest
June 25, 2021

Maybe Russians hoping ship would fire its surekill armed and ready
to fire missiles first…….

Boz From Oz
Boz From Oz
June 25, 2021

Can anyone work out the probability of a warship straying into Russian territory with a BBC journo actually on board.

Playing with Marbles
Playing with Marbles
Reply to  Boz From Oz
June 25, 2021

No doubt Ukrainian hackers were on board too, to fiddle with transmissions to make it appear the Russians hacked the controls to purposely send it into Russian waters.

The WaPo will run that exclusive by noon tomorrow. Have to give it ‘plausible analysis’ time, after all.

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Franz Beckenbauer
Franz Beckenbauer
Reply to  Boz From Oz
June 25, 2021

According to the UK spokesperson, the vessel took “the direct route from Ukraine to Georgia”, which of course goes 3 kilometres close to sevastopol harbor.

Yeah, right. The UK must be very desperate indeed to make such a fool of herself in public to get whatever support from their poodle master.

The Holy Snail
The Holy Snail
Reply to  Franz Beckenbauer
June 26, 2021

When will Monty Python be making a comeback? So much unexploited treasure in the UK these days, esp. with BoJo.

He He
He He
Reply to  Boz From Oz
June 26, 2021

The Daily Mail journalist was there to give ‘gravitas’ to the BBC’s reports, and for backup laughs.

The Fog of War
The Fog of War
Reply to  Boz From Oz
June 26, 2021

Don’t know but I just calculated 90 seconds for a Shkval to sink it and declare it hit a mine.

Oh My
Oh My
Reply to  The Fog of War
June 26, 2021

Wiser to use a Kinzhal, sink it in 0.90 seconds and declare an albatross hit it.

Jonathan Jarvis
Jonathan Jarvis
June 25, 2021

Clearly Bojo’s statements confirm UK gov determination to cause trouble with their gung ho hooray Henry dimwit policies. Determined somehow to bring things to russophobic hysterical head eg Tom Tugendhat, chair of the UK’s Foreign Affairs Committee slammed the government of Russia’s Vladimir Putin in a pair of tweets on Wednesday. ‘Firing shots at ships in international waters is criminal. Putin’s regime has: Used chemical weapons in the UK, Murdered opponents across Europe, Set explosions in Prague, Invaded and illegally occupied Ukraine and Georgia, Kept the Russian people hostage for a generation,’ he wrote. ‘Now it appears they lied about… Read more »

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Jonathan Jarvis
June 26, 2021

Quote, “Note Turkey and Ukraine are now publicising firming up agreements even more to get Ukraine up to Nato standards. ” Unquote. L.O.L. Now that sentence is really funny. NATO Standards, L.O.L.

Turkish Taffy
Turkish Taffy
Reply to  Eddy
June 26, 2021

NATO standards are inviolable, unless they decide to violate them, usu. by a vote of one.

Wiley Coyote
Wiley Coyote
Reply to  Turkish Taffy
June 26, 2021

Typically, for NATO the more violent the petitioning state, the better so as not to miss the opportunity to incorporate the violence into NATO’s greater good.

In Ukraine’s case, the challenge may have been too much, or too transparent, so NATO subcontracted to its black sheep Turkey, to accomplish the task.

Rainbow Warriors
Rainbow Warriors
Reply to  Jonathan Jarvis
June 26, 2021

Brits are so colorful in their accusations.

Franz Beckenbauer
Franz Beckenbauer
June 25, 2021

Most – acrually, all – westeen “analysts” missed two things. Too bad nine of them speak any russian.

– russia did not only ditch the U.S. dollar but also the british pound. Ouch.
– together with Vlad’s clear message to the oligarchs during the “state of the nation” speech to getvtheir billions out of london, that should give “perfidious albion” some second thoughts.

That’s the difference between russia and the west: the west is playing silly games. Russia is playing hardball.

A middleman masquerading as a nation
A middleman masquerading as a nation
Reply to  Franz Beckenbauer
June 26, 2021

What could it buy with British pounds anyway that it doesn’t already have?

“The United Kingdom ranks among world-leading nations for exporting aircraft parts, platinum and gold.”

The platinum and gold are just re-exports of Russian imports anyway. Probably the titanium aircraft parts too.

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A Pot of Gold at the end of their Rainbow
A Pot of Gold at the end of their Rainbow

Navalny’s sidekick promised they would have it all.

Never met a Brit who didn't swoon over Cash
Never met a Brit who didn't swoon over Cash

I thought the platinum and gold were payments from Russia thieves seeking asylum.

white helmets don't come cheap
white helmets don't come cheap

Well, some was from Saudi princes to pay for services rendered. I’d throw the Israelis in there too but they’re sort of a competing clearing house laundry for such funds, so it becomes a bit more complicated.

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Wawrence
Wawrence
Reply to  white helmets don't come cheap
June 27, 2021

Saudi ‘prince’, the very idea makes me chuckle. Might as well call Hunter Biden America’s drug czar.

David Bowlas
David Bowlas
June 25, 2021

Our lazy media and its master the British government and its knee bending opposition have no idea what ”don’t poke the bear” means. But I now see a change in Russian attitudes towards the arrogant Brits and the EU. You just might poke it too much one day and you will be left to fight the country that won WW11.

Serge Galitsky
Serge Galitsky
June 26, 2021

Boris must stop playing with his willy, otherwise Matron will just have to cut it off!

Monty the Python
Monty the Python
Reply to  Serge Galitsky
June 26, 2021

Next time around, he’s planning a helicopter drop into Sevastopol.comment image

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