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BREAKING: North Korea will not stop nuclear program until achieving parity with US

Similar bellicose statements from the US and South Korea, indicate that we are in the preliminary states of an arms race.

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North Korean media is reporting a statement from the country’s leader Kim Jong-Un which states that Pyongyang will never cease building its nuclear programme until its capabilities and arsenal are equal to that of the United States.

This comes hours after Donald Trump announced plans to end the so-called Defense Spending Sequester which caps the amount of money the US armed forces can be given during any given financial year.

In this sense, both the US and North Korea appear to be in an open arms race. While the US is vastly ahead of North Korea in terms of nuclear firepower, the duel announcements go against the spirit of the Sino-Russian peace plan for Korea which calls for a ‘double-freeze’ on weapons build-ups among both Korean States. This includes a request that the US ceases its deliveries of THAAD missile systems to South Korea.

Earlier, South Korean President Moon Jae-in stated that if necessary his country is ready to completely destroy North Korea.

None of these statements bode well in respect of de-escalating the conflict.

 

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More nonsense. North Korea will never have “parity” with the US’ 5-6,000 nuclear warheads. Just more bombast from NK. Kim is an idiot. He doesn’t realize that nukes are only a deterrent if you have enough of them in a deliverable form – to be a credible existential threat. NK doesn’t have that and the more he threatens, the more his REAL conventional deterrent erodes its deterrent value. Countries that think that giving up nukes means they’ll get invaded like Saddam and Gaddafi don’t realize that even with nukes those two countries would have been invaded BEFORE they actually got… Read more »

TecumsehUnfaced
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It’s people without nukes that get invaded and pulverized by the paid thugs of the Washington imperialists.

richardstevenhack
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richardstevenhack

Didn’t read a word I said…

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

I re-read what you said. It was just as poorly thought out as the first time I read it.

seby
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seby

When DPRK has confirmed the ability to do serious damage to the lickspittles of the south, Japan and US empire bases in the region, a state of MAD and peace will sadly be in place.

Anyway this is all about geopolitical games against China and Russia. This specific subject is moot.

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Hey, not that is an example of excellent reasoning. I hope richardstevenhack can profit from it.

I bet Japan got totally turned off on any more aggression against the DPRK, with the first missile flying over them.

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seby

Apparently both North and South missile tests fly over Japan into the Pacific. It’s a worry, what will happen, if an “accident”/false flag occurs! Like I said before, MAD is a sad state to engage in international relations with.

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Kim Jong-un is not an idiot. He is one of the leaders of a nuclear armed state.

richardstevenhack
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Who will probably shortly be the dead leader of a disarmed nuclear armed state – like Saddam.

Le Ruscino
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Le Ruscino

Dream on – US has had its bluff called & can’t do shit !

Jim Mooney
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Jim Mooney

The main reason he is building them is because he saw what happened to Iraq and Libya. Two states that didn’t even threaten the US, which starts phony wars for phony reasons.

Bob Trajkoski
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Bob Trajkoski

HI ONLY NEED 1..2..3. OR SO TO DO ENOUGH DAMAGE EXPLODED IN THAT MANY CITIES TO KILL MILLIONS IN USA. MOST LIKELY HE HAS THAT MANY HIDDEN ON THE USA SOIL

richardstevenhack
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richardstevenhack

Do you realize that remarks like that label you as someone who can’t ever be taken seriously?

Le Ruscino
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Le Ruscino

Yeah – we see your avatar 馃檪

BobValdez
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BobValdez

With an avatar like that, you are obviously 12 years old and have no idea what’s really happening in the world. Why do you think we should take YOU seriously?

Tony
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Tony

Actually it’s you who are straying into delusion teritorry….if an invasion was reasonably feasible, they would’ve done it already years ago….the destrauction would be immense and it would likely involve the PLA

Jim Mooney
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Jim Mooney

ALL CAPS IS SHOUTING – although I have to get Putin out from under my bed 馃槈

Terry Ross
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You have TOTALLY misunderstood the point of his comment. He is well aware that DPRK will never have parity with the US in terms of nuclear arsenal. However that means that DPRK will continue down its nuclear path as is its right ….as much right as the US has to maintain such an arsenal considering that its the only country in the world irresponsible enough to have deployed such weapons against civilian targets. There is NO chance of DPRK getting invaded. Both China AND Russia will ensure that does not happen and the US has already been warned . Don’t… Read more »

Jim Mooney
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Jim Mooney

Even General MacArthur said the destruction and death of the Korean war made him sick, and he fought the Japanese for years. This is Not a war we want or need.

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K-dub

U.S tucked tail in Syria after Russia entered the fray…and the rank and file of the US military was giving push back about being in Syria (very small invasion) BEFORE Russia
U.S is going to bark, threaten, whine, complain about NK a lot more than they already have and just like in Syria..the outcome has already been decideed.

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Wesa F.

The US can have 20,000 nukes all it takes is 1 modern weapon well placed and the US is all over.Nukes are becoming a media weapon to bolster bravado and bank accounts the weapons of today are truly the end,the countries that have them don’t want to have them but have no choice because of the rogue state of America.

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, where Ok, I’ll weigh in on this, just in case it makes sense to keep a bit more of the full landscape in view. First, and not only for entertainment purposes, http://stevepieczenik.com/warning-to-kim-jong-un/ where Pieczenik, old psy-ops regime-changer, US IC and Trumpist says i.a. “Warning to North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un: While You Send Nuclear Bombs Overseas your Loyal Military/Intelligence is Preparing for Your Neutralization!” and “The fact remains that North Korean leadership had been infiltrated by both South Korean and Chinese operatives who could have assassinated your family members at a moment鈥檚 notice. Kim Jong-un: nothing has changed since… Read more »

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Excellent stuff, George. Re: “. . . if the US in the final days and hours decides to pull the plug on its political agreement on that issue with Russia, Russia is making no offers to let that [the US is operating illegally in Syria, but this will be tolerated as long as they are — at least to some extent — fighting ISIS.] happen.” I suggest you have already answered this: “Events there just in the past week have demonstrated that ISIS and US proxy forces melt into each other freely [west of the Euphrates, moving SDF forces south… Read more »

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RUSSIAN MILITARY OBSERVED NO FIGHTING BETWEEN ISIS AND SDF NORTH OF DEIR EZZOR IN LAST DAYS 9-17-17 The Russian military have not observed any fighting between ISIS and the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the northern countryside of Deir Ezzor city over the past few days, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov said commenting on the US-led coalition鈥檚 allegations that Russian forces struck SDF units fighting against ISIS on September 16. 鈥淥ver the past few days, on the eastern bank of the Euphrates, Russian control and reconnaissance facilities have not identified a single combat of Islamic State terrorists… Read more »

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It seems like this country is run by a bunch of pricks. The congress and senate and the president are frigging pricks. They can’t get anything done, the congress goes on one month vacations while health benefits and tax reduction talks are supposed to be discussed and voted on. These pricks don’t give a dam what 300,000,000 people want. What a lumatic government.

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Saudi Arabia’s version of events: Jamal Khashoggi died during a fist fight (Video)

The Duran Quick Take: Episode 5.

Alex Christoforou

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The BBC聽examines the stunning Saudi admission that聽Jamal Khashoggi was murdered from three angles:

What is Saudi Arabia’s version of events?

The kingdom says a fight broke out between Mr Khashoggi, who had fallen out of favour with the Saudi government, and people who met him in the consulate – ending with his death.

It says investigations are under way, and so far 18 Saudi nationals have been arrested.

Unnamed officials speaking to Reuters news agency and the New York Times say the Saudis did not know the whereabouts of the body after it was handed to a “local collaborator” to dispose of.

In addition to the arrests, two senior officials have been sacked over the affair – deputy intelligence chief Ahmad al-Assiri and Saud al-Qahtani, senior aide to Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman.

The Saudi authorities have yet to give evidence to support this version of events.

Observers are questioning whether Saudi Arabia’s Western allies will find their account of a “botched rendition” convincing – and whether it will persuade them not to take punitive action against them.

US President Donald Trump said what had happened was “unacceptable” but that the arrests were an important “first step”. The UK Foreign Office said it was considering its next steps after hearing the report.

What did Turkey say?

“Turkey will reveal whatever had happened,” said Omer Celik of Turkey’s ruling AKP party, according to Anadolu news agency.

“Nobody should ever doubt about it. We are not accusing anyone in advance but we don’t accept anything to remain covered [up].”

Publicly Turkey has so far stopped short of blaming Saudi Arabia for the killing.

Turkish investigators, however, say they have audio and video evidence which shows Mr Khashoggi was killed by a team of Saudi agents inside the consulate and dismembered. Reports in Turkish media this week gave gruesome details of what are said to be his final minutes.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke to Saudi King Salman on Friday evening, and the two agreed to continue co-operating in the investigation.

How have Saudi’s Western allies reacted?

President Trump praised the kingdom for acting quickly and said the official explanation was “credible”, despite many US lawmakers expressing disbelief over the Saudi account.

Mr Trump stressed the importance of Saudi Arabia as a counterbalance to Iran in the Middle East, and pushed back against the need for sanctions against the country in light of the new information, talking about the effect of such a move on the US economy.

Earlier this week he warned of “very severe” consequences if Saudi Arabia was proved to have killed the journalist.

A number of US lawmakers, including a Republican highly critical of the Saudis, Senator Lindsey Graham, said they were sceptical about the report on the journalist’s death.

The UK Foreign Office described it as “a terrible act” and said the people behind the killing “must be held to account”.

RT CrossTalk host Peter Lavelle and The Duran鈥檚 Alex Christoforou take a quick look at Saudi Arabia鈥檚 admission to killing journalist聽Jamal Khashoggi during a fist fight inside the Istanbul consulate…a story that the Trump White House has so far accepted, but many US Congressmen and mainstream media pundits outright reject.

Remember to Please Subscribe to The Duran鈥檚 YouTube Channel.

Meanwhile聽Reuters聽floated this story on turmoil inside the Saudi Kingdom as a trial balloon to see if anyone has the might to challenge a very unstable crown prince, by appealing to the frail King and his western allies.

Since he acceded to the throne in January 2015, the king has given MbS, his favorite son, increasing authority to run Saudi Arabia. But the king鈥檚 latest intervention reflects growing disquiet among some members of the royal court about MbS鈥檚 fitness to govern, the five sources said.

MbS, 33, has implemented a series of high-profile social and economic reforms since his father鈥檚 accession, including ending a ban on women driving and opening cinemas in the conservative kingdom.

But he has also marginalized senior members of the royal family and consolidated control over Saudi鈥檚 security and intelligence agencies.

His reforms have been accompanied by a crackdown on dissent, a purge of top royals and businessmen on corruption charges, and a costly war in Yemen.

Khashoggi鈥檚 disappearance has further tarnished the crown prince鈥檚 reputation, deepening questions among Western allies and some Saudis about his leadership.

鈥淓ven if he is his favorite son, the king needs to have a comprehensive view for his survival and the survival of the royal family,鈥 said a fourth Saudi source with links to the royal court.

鈥淚n the end it will snowball on all of them.鈥

Saudi officials did not immediately respond to Reuters requests for comment.

MISCALCULATION

Saudi Arabia has repeatedly denied any role in Khashoggi鈥檚 disappearance. But the sources familiar with the royal court said the reaction from the United States, an ally for decades, had contributed to the king鈥檚 intervention.

鈥淲hen the situation got out of control and there was an uproar in the United States, MbS informed his father that there was a problem and that they have to face it,鈥 another source with knowledge of the royal court said.

The crown prince and his aides had initially thought the crisis would pass but they 鈥渕iscalculated its repercussions鈥, this source said.

Turkish officials have made clear they believe Khashoggi was killed inside the consulate, and two Turkish sources have told Reuters police have audio recordings to back up that assertion.

U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican close to President Donald Trump, on Tuesday accused MbS of ordering Khashoggi鈥檚 murder and called him a 鈥渨recking ball鈥 who is jeopardizing relations with the United States. He did not say what evidence he was basing the allegation on.

Trump said on Thursday he presumed Khashoggi was dead but that he still wanted to get to the bottom of what exactly happened. Asked what would be the consequences for Saudi Arabia, Trump said: 鈥淲ell, it鈥檒l have to be very severe. I mean, it鈥檚 bad, bad stuff. But we鈥檒l see what happens.鈥

Trump has previously said 鈥渞ogue killers鈥 may have been responsible and has ruled out cancelling arms deals worth tens of billions of dollars. On Tuesday, Trump said he had spoken with MbS and that the crown prince told him he did not know what had happened in the consulate where Khashoggi went missing.

The case poses a dilemma for the United States, as well as Britain and other Western nations. Saudi Arabia is the world鈥檚 top oil exporter, spends lavishly on Western arms and is an ally in efforts to contain the influence of Iran.

But in a sign of the damage, a succession of international banking and business chiefs, including IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde, JP Morgan Chief Executive Jamie Dimon and Ford Chairman Bill Ford, have pulled out of a high-profile investment conference in Saudi Arabia this month.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Thursday also abandoned plans to attend, as did Britain鈥檚 trade minister and the French and Dutch finance ministers, putting the event in question.

Saudi officials have said they plan to move forward with the conference, scheduled for Oct. 23-25, despite the wave of cancellations.

Neither JP Morgan nor Ford would elaborate on the reasons for the decision not to attend and did not comment on whether concerns about the disappearance of Khashoggi were a factor.

Lagarde had previously said she was 鈥渉orrified鈥 by media reports about Khashoggi鈥檚 disappearance. An IMF spokesperson did not give a reason for her deferring her trip to the Middle East.

TAKING CONTROL

Before the king鈥檚 intervention, Saudi authorities had been striking a defiant tone, threatening on Sunday to retaliate with greater action against the U.S. and others if sanctions are imposed over Khashoggi鈥檚 disappearance. A Saudi-owned media outlet warned the result would be disruption in Saudi oil production and a sharp rise in world oil prices.

鈥淩eaction and threats to the possible sanctions of the last 24 hours were still (coming) from the crown prince,鈥 the businessman close to royal circles said on Monday. 鈥淭he king is now holding the file personally … and the tone is very different.鈥

The king has spoken directly with Erdogan and Trump in recent days. Both the king and his son met U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo when he visited Riyadh on Tuesday.

King Salman, 82, spent decades as part of the inner circle of the Al Saud dynasty, which long ruled by consensus. In four decades as governor of Riyadh, he earned a reputation as a royal enforcer who punished princes who were out of line.

Whether he is willing or able to resume that role in this crisis remains unclear, palace insiders say. One source with links to the royal court said the king was 鈥渃aptivated鈥 by MbS and ultimately would protect him.

Still, there is precedent for the king鈥檚 intervention.

He stepped in this year to shelve the planned listing of national oil company Saudi Aramco, the brainchild of MbS and a cornerstone of his economic reforms, three sources with ties to government insiders told Reuters in August. Saudi officials have said the government remains committed to the plans.

And when MbS gave the impression last year that Riyadh endorsed the Trump administration鈥檚 still nebulous Middle East peace plan, including U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as Israel鈥檚 capital, the king made a public correction, reaffirming Riyadh鈥檚 commitment to the Arab and Muslim identity of the city.

Despite these rare instances of pushback, several of the sources close to the royal family said that King Salman had grown increasingly detached from decisions taken by MbS.

鈥淗e has been living in an artificially-created bubble,鈥 said one of the sources. Lately, though, the king鈥檚 advisers have grown frustrated and begun warning him of the risks of leaving the crown prince鈥檚 power unchecked.

鈥淭he people around him are starting to tell him to wake up to what鈥檚 happening,鈥 the source said.

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Kiev 鈥楶atriarch鈥 prepares to seize Moscow properties in Ukraine

Although Constantinople besought the Kiev church to stop property seizures, they were ignored and used, or perhaps, complicit.

Seraphim Hanisch

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The attack on the Eastern Orthodox Church, brought about by the US State Department and its proxies in Constantinople and Ukraine, is continuing. On October 20, 2018, the illegitimate “Kyiv (Kiev) Patriarchate”, led by Filaret Denisenko who is calling himself “Patriarch Filaret”, had a synodal meeting in which it changed the commemoration title of the leader of the church to include the Kyiv Caves and Pochaev Lavras.

This is a problem because Metropolitan Onuphry of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church which is canonically accepted and acts as a very autonomous church under the Moscow Patriarchate has these places under his pastoral care.

This move takes place only one week after Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople unilaterally (and illegally) lifted the excommunications, depositions (removal from priestly ranks as punishment) and anathemas against Filaret and Makary that were imposed on them by the hierarchy of the Moscow Patriarchate.

These two censures are very serious matters in the Orthodox Church. Excommunication means that the person or church so considered cannot receive Holy Communion or any of the other Mysteries (called Sacraments in the West) in a neighboring local Orthodox Church. Anathema is even more serious, for this happens when a cleric disregards his excommunication and deposition (removal from the priesthood), and acts as a priest or a bishop聽anyway.

Filaret Denisenko received all these censures in 1992, and Patriarch Bartholomew accepted this decision at the time, as stated in a letter he sent to Moscow shortly after the censures. However, three years later, Patriarch Bartholomew received a group of Ukrainian autocephalist bishops called the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in the USA, who had been in communion with Filaret’s group. While this move may have been motivated by the factor of Bartholomew’s almost total isolation within Istanbul, Turkey, it is nonetheless non-canonical.

This year’s moves have far exceeded previous ones, though, and now the possibility for a real clash that could cost lives is raised. With Filaret’s “church” – really an agglomeration of Ukrainian ultranationalists and Neo-Nazis in the mix, plus millions of no doubt innocent Ukrainian faithful who are deluded about the problems of their church, challenging an existing arrangement regarding Ukraine聽and Russia’s two most holy sites, the results are not likely to be good at all.

Here is the report about today’s developments, reprinted in part聽from OrthoChristian.com:

Meeting today in Kiev, the Synod of the schismatic 鈥淜iev Patriarchate鈥 (KP) has officially changed the title of its primate, 鈥淧atriarch鈥 Philaret, to include the Kiev Caves and Pochaev Lavras under his jurisdiction.

The primate鈥檚 new official title, as given on the site of the KP, is 鈥淗is Holiness and Beatitude (name), Archbishop and Metropolitan of Kiev鈥擬other of the cities of Rus鈥, and Galicia, Patriarch of All Rus鈥-Ukraine, Svyaschenno-Archimandrite of the Holy Dormition Kiev Caves and Pochaev Lavras.鈥

…Thus, the KP Synod is declaring that 鈥淧atriarch鈥 Philaret has jurisdiction over the Kiev Caves and Pochaev Lavras, although they are canonically under the omophorion of His Beatitude Metropolitan Onuphry of Kiev and All Ukraine, the primate of the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Philaret and his followers and nationalistic radicals have continually proclaimed that they will take the Lavras for themselves.

This claim to the ancient and venerable monasteries comes after the Holy Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate announced that it had removed the anathema placed upon Philaret by the Russian Orthodox Church and had restored him to his hierarchical office. Philaret was a metropolitan of the canonical Church, becoming patriarch in his schismatic organization.

Representatives of the Ecumenical Patriarchate have clarified that they consider Philaret to be the 鈥渇ormer Metropolitan of Kiev,鈥 but he and his organization continue to consider him an active patriarch, with jurisdiction in Ukraine.

Constantinople鈥檚 statement also appealed to all in Ukraine to 鈥渁void appropriation of churches, monasteries, and other properties,鈥 which the Synod of the KP ignored in today鈥檚 decision.

The KP primate鈥檚 abbreviated title will be, 鈥淗is Holiness (name), Patriarch of Kiev and All Rus鈥-Ukraine,鈥 and the acceptable form for relations with other Local Churches is 鈥淗is Beatitude Archbishop (name), Metropolitan of Kiev and All Rus鈥-Ukraine.鈥

The Russian Orthodox Church broke eucharistic communion and all relations with the Ecumenical Patriarchate over this matter earlier this week. Of the fourteen local Orthodox Churches recognized the world over, twelve have expressed the viewpoint that Constantinople’s move was in violation of the canons of the Holy Orthodox Church. Only one local Church supported Constantinople wholeheartedly, and all jurisdictions except Constantinople have appealed for an interOrthodox Synod to address and solve the Ukrainian matter in a legitimate manner.

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Claims of Khashoggi death by fistfight expose Saudi brutality

The brutality of both state claims and unproven allegations in Khashoggi’s death raise serious questions about American alliances.

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On October 2, 2018, Muslim Brotherhood member and Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi entered the Saudi Arabian embassy in Turkey, never to be seen or heard from again.

This chilling report has been answered with some horrifying and grisly stories about what happened – that he was dismembered while still alive, that his body parts were dissolved completely in acid, leaving nothing left.

Now after two weeks, the Saudi official word on what happened came out: He died in an unexpected fistfight in the embassy.

Really. That is the Saudi’s explanation. A fistfight. In an embassy. With 18 people detained as suspects in the investigation.

And apparently the Saudi government expects the world to accept this explanation and just let it go.

This situation has just exposed the true nature of this “ally” of the United States. Even Rush Limbaugh, a staunch supporter of all conservative positions in America, has spoken from time to time about the amazing disconnect in American foreign policy with regards to Saudi Arabia. He continued that on his radio programs on both October 18th and 19th, 2018, as shown in this excerpted transcript, with emphasis added:

I鈥檓 simplifying this, folks, but generally that鈥檚 what happens. So, by the same token, you could say that this militant terrorist Islam that we鈥檝e known since 9/11 and maybe 10, 15 years prior, that has been sponsored by Saudi Arabia, by the Saudi royal family. It鈥檚 why so many people have been upset with so many American presidents being buddy-buddy with the king, whoever he happens to be. The Saudis always fund former presidents鈥 libraries. I mean, the Saudis had a good thing going. They had relationships with every president, former president and so forth.

And while they were selling us oil, sometimes. Cooperative or uncooperative, depending on the time, with price. But during all of that, they were the primary thrust for Wahhabi Islam. Now, here comes MbS (Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia), and he wants to just reform the hell out of the country, get rid of Wahhabism, bring in petrodollars competitors such as Hollywood and Silicon Valley and basically bring Saudi Arabia into the twenty-first century instead of the seventh. And there鈥檚 some people that don鈥檛 want that to happen.

And from the 19th:

Wahhabi Islam is where the really radical clerics and Imams are who are welcoming anybody they can into their mosques and just literally converting them into suicide bombers, terrorists, and what have you, under the auspices of Islam. And the Saudi royal family stood by and let it all happen. Whether they were instrumental in advocating it, don鈥檛 know, but Saudi-funded charities all over the world promoted Wahhabism.

And that鈥檚 when I went back to Mr. Buckley and said, 鈥淚 don鈥檛 see how the Saudi royal family, the Saudi government can be separated from these 19 hijackers.鈥

Now in the rest of these transcripts, which are very interesting, Rush explains that Khashoggi was a Muslim Brotherhood member, and as such, stood opposed to MbS’ reform plans and actions. However the brutality of the alleged murder of Mr. Khashoggi, and the official “State version” account of his death are almost equally brutal. Death by fists? How is it that the United States considers such people allies?

President Trump is on record as saying that this explanation by the Saudi government is “credible.” However, this statement alone is out of context, so we bring you the entire statement:

This is not to be misunderstood as a Trump endorsement of belief. He points out that this is a first step, and that in his view it is a good one, but that is all.

Still, these events throw the real nature of the Saudi kingdom into sharp relief. They are the number one customer for US military equipment, now considered allies against Iran. In the complicated field of Middle East relations, the president’s caution is probably very wise for the moment. However, this is a nation which produced most of the 9/11 hijackers, which is said to be the last voice in what Islam is, and so promotes a very violent interpretation of an already violent faith.

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The news and information media got a great lesson in following something like “due process” with this matter, and while the President is doing that, this situation still invites some strong speculation. Allies that simultaneously seek an allied nation’s destruction do not seem like allies much at all. And embassies are usually held to be very safe places for people, not places where they meet their death in any way at all, let alone the cruel means alleged and later claimed.

This event may actually be very damaging to the Saudi Crown Prince’s effort to bring his nation out of Wahhabism and into some more kind interpretation of Islam, and indeed the West’s assessment of Khashoggi has taken to calling him a “teddy bear” when he is a Muslim Brotherhood member. Former US President Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and these people were so violent, killing Christians and destroying homes and businesses, that the Muslim Brotherhood’s uprising was followed by a second uprising from the more reasonable people in Egypt (which Obama promptly dropped).

If reports are to be believed, Mohammed bin Salman wants to end Wahhabism. It would seem to logically make sense that his agencies were involved in what happened to Kashoggi, who is a known critic of bin Salman. But if it really is true that the Saudi royals were not involved, then whoever it was certainly succeeded in stopping bin Salman’s efforts to modernize his country, at least for now.

 

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