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Bitter Ukraine, Angry about Nord Stream 2, Lashes Out At Berlin and Paris

Bitter Ukraine, Angry about Nord Stream 2, Lashes Out At Berlin and Paris
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French & Germans are to blame for Ukraine & Georgia losing control over swaths of territory, claims top Kiev security official

French & Germans are to blame for Ukraine & Georgia losing control over swaths of territory, claims top Kiev security official

France and Germany bear moral responsibility for Ukraine and Georgia losing territory. That’s according to the secretary of Kiev’s National Security and Defense Council, who pointed the finger at the EU’s two strongest powers.

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The Game of Bait & Switch Blackmail
The Game of Bait & Switch Blackmail
July 10, 2021

I’d be pissed too if I were losing the last means to pressure Russia into conciliatory moves in my interest by implied means of cutting gas supplies to Europe at their most vulnerable moment and making it appear it was the Russians’ decision to do so. Besides, even thinking I’d have some control or leverage in the matter would have been a psychological warm blanky for me and mine. Now I’ll have to appeal to my western journalist friends that they do what they do best and accuse those meany Russians of pulling the life-sustaining blanket off of freezing, starving… Read more »

EGADS
EGADS
Reply to  The Game of Bait & Switch Blackmail
July 11, 2021

You scare me. You’re starting to think like a Ukrainian, or one of those British ‘think tanks’.

British Intrigues
British Intrigues
Reply to  EGADS
July 11, 2021

Speaking of such ‘think tanks’, Russia should take due notice of British-based seemingly innocuous firms using native Russian-speakers from the West, esp. grads of the Ivy Leagues like Yale, and teaching English in Russia to children of the Russian elite. They are there to gather intimate information on their parents, to be potentially used in regime-change operations.

Curious George
Curious George
Reply to  British Intrigues
July 13, 2021

You seem to have some inside-information on the subject.

Passing Thoughts
Passing Thoughts
July 10, 2021

The bitterness towards Germany and France may also in part stem, albeit subconsciously, from their participating in, even driving the EU’s ultimatum to Yanukovitch, to drop any customs accommodations with Russia and allowing Yanukovitch to simply be voted out of office. If so, they’re silently adding the US and its coup intrigues to the pair.

Anyway, I agree with Alexander on his anger remark:

5 Stage Theory: Denial, anger, bargaining (internal and external), depression, and finally acceptance.

Ukraine is definitely in stage 2 and testing stage 3 waters.

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platon
platon
Reply to  Passing Thoughts
July 11, 2021

When the Khazars are done stripping the soil from The Ukraine, they will pave it and put up the global synagogue.

bogsik
bogsik
Reply to  platon
July 11, 2021

correct! the Pale revival project is in a full swing but having genocidal ubernationalist “Ukrainians” at the table is somewhat inconvenient and must be addressed soon. Similarly, Lukashenka is a temporary inconvenience, but Russia can help.

Recent meeting between the fake Polish, Lithuanian and Ukrainan national leaders and signed declaration of the revival of the cooperation between these TWO nations of the former POLISH-Lithuanian Commonwealth is a logical first step aimed at the post-EU integration of the territory once the BIGGEST European power housing millions of jews until their ultranationalistic zionist ideology led to their self-demise😈

jodi1
jodi1
July 10, 2021

It was not the Russians that did this to the Ukrainians. Yanukovych was elected president
with a majority lead, Russia offered Yanukovych low rates on gas flow to Ukraine and a $15,000,000.00 loan instead of Ukraine having to accept a loan from the IMF.
I understand that Poroshenko who was a minister within Yanukovych’s party and Yatsenyuk betrayed their country by working with the US and EU on the Maidan coup.
That coup resulted in the problems they have today.

platon
platon
Reply to  jodi1
July 11, 2021

‘Katzeniuk’ please. That is his clan name.

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Well done, Crimeans
Well done, Crimeans
Reply to  jodi1
July 11, 2021

Hiding in the equation though was the excellent opportunity for what should have been done in 1991, to reunite an autonomous Crimea with Russia as the Crimeans had been trying to do …..how many times now was it? Anyway, it finally put to rest the absurdity of Russia having to lease its own naval base under constant threat of eviction from Washington’s puppets, and not just any naval base at that.

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Well done, Crimeans
July 11, 2021

It’s rather ironic, that the Western World seems to be suffering from amnesia on this issue. Not one article ever published by anyone highlighting this shameful affair that had been ongoing for quiet a few years, well before the U.S. sponsored Maiden affair even saw daylight. I wonder why the silence on those FACTS ?

Simple Answer
Simple Answer
Reply to  Eddy
July 11, 2021

Any discussion on that topic could not avoid a public’s awakening to the primary reason behind this Western ‘intervention’, to secure Crimea for NATO and evict Russia, effectively turning all of the Black Sea into NATO’s lake.

Yushchenko, fully under US control, had tried to terminate the RF lease by 2017. What then could even a poorly informed observer conclude, were such things discussed in the MSM?

No, they must maintain silence to maintain their facade of integrity.

Couldn't be clearer
Couldn't be clearer
Reply to  Well done, Crimeans
July 13, 2021

“The right of a people to self-determination is a cardinal principle in modern international law (commonly regarded as a jus cogens rule), binding, as such, on the United Nations as authoritative interpretation of the Charter’s norms. It states that people, based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no interference.”

Simple Machinations
Simple Machinations
Reply to  Couldn't be clearer
July 13, 2021

Except that the UN has been strong-armed by the US to avoid ruling on Crimea or the Donbass.

Ukraine's perpetual betrayal
Ukraine's perpetual betrayal
Reply to  jodi1
July 13, 2021

The ‘rabbit’ built his chicken wire fence and pocketed a fistful of dollars. Such is the nature of such folks.

BaronVonWeaselTeets
BaronVonWeaselTeets
July 10, 2021

Ukraine has become the west’s usefull idiot.

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platon
platon
Reply to  BaronVonWeaselTeets
July 11, 2021

Ukraine is the model for the post ‘Great Reset’ West.

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Reply to  BaronVonWeaselTeets
July 11, 2021

Which number?

Helga I. Fellay
Helga I. Fellay
Reply to  BaronVonWeaselTeets
July 11, 2021

The Ukraine has been turned by the West into the West’s useful idiot. It was a coup, remember? The Ukraine didn’t just decide to turn…..

Credit's due where......
Credit's due where......
Reply to  Helga I. Fellay
July 11, 2021

Oh c’mon. were they not equal partners in crime? As if the likes of Parubiy et. al. needed any urging to begin their massacres, with a nod of approval from Albright’s understudy.

Helga I. Fellay
Helga I. Fellay
Reply to  Credit's due where......
July 11, 2021

I never said the Ukraine is pure as the driven snow. That, however, does not make the victim of a US regime change coup an “equal partner in crime.” The US manages to find collaborators in every country against which they carry out coups. These people are called TRAITORS to their own nations, and it doesn’t make the victim nation an equal partner in crime. The city of Miami is full of luxury mansions occupied by millionaire Latinos (courtesy of US taxpayers) who collaborated with the US to destroy their own countries in Latin America.

Simple Truths
Simple Truths
Reply to  Helga I. Fellay
July 12, 2021

‘Pure as the driven snow’, LOL

More like a slush pit of mud and grime.

Zakharchenko was as pure as the driven snow, and they assassinated him for it.

Last edited 12 days ago by Simple Truths
Dwight Clark
Dwight Clark
July 10, 2021

Surfs up Big Daddy, Two Edged Sword, my friend, in one aspect the Russians aquiring Crimea in Christian context brought them closer to Sun of god or superstar corona event, Moscow getting hit hard, ultra violet radiation over City….The other aspect Supernatural Aggression of Babi is well served….Israel at its best never produced such WW3 possibilities such as U craine in US, Russia, France, talk about alot of cargo….Surfer Girl Surfer Girl, my little Surfer Girl…The good Ol Days! Dwight Robert Clark

platon
platon
Reply to  Dwight Clark
July 11, 2021

That must of been fifty years of some bad shit, Dwight, t0 give you that kind of crazed imagination. Lay off the… whatever it is you did too much of.

Alexi
Alexi
Reply to  platon
July 11, 2021

Dwight Clark (AKA) Timothy Leary.

Pyramid Power
Pyramid Power
Reply to  Alexi
July 13, 2021

It is said that the Egyptians first conceptualized the pyramids while tripping on LSD.

platon
platon
July 11, 2021

If Ukro-Fascist oligarchs can’t grift, they have to go out on the highway again and cut throats. Naturally they are upset.

Alexi
Alexi
July 11, 2021

NWO to Ukraine: Well we wined and dined you the Foreplay was lousy and its time for you to bend over and let us rape you……. The western Oligarchs are now in the process of stripping the Ukraine of any value left in the country. I think once this process is done we can expect a lot of upheaval and eventually either a coup or perhaps even revolution. Afterwards they will have the opportunity to reestablish good relations with Russia which will open all sorts of opportunities with China. This is best for everyone in the region particularly the Ukrainians.… Read more »

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Alexi
July 11, 2021

Alexi, whilst it’s nice to see someone still harbors some hope for this insane nation, I cannot share that view. The plan was to establish NATO bases along the border of Russia. Nothing has happened to minimise that, or cancel it out. That is still, the major objective.If it requires a civil war within the Ukraine, so be it. Any event occurring in the Ukraine these days, is irrelevant, provided the opportunity to achieve their goal remains open. I strongly suspect the suffering of innocent people’s within the Ukraine, is going to become far, far worse before it gets any… Read more »

Eddy
Eddy
July 11, 2021

Total morons. If the they had not ALIENATED their southern states, by passing laws forbidding them to even speak their native tongue, (RUSSIAN) and then cut off funding and general services, such as pensions and health, then top it all off with bombing and artillery strikes murdering innocent peoples, I’m pretty sure they’d still have a little clout with their southern constituents. It’s no Germany’s fault, nor Frances, they need to take a good long hard look in the mirror if they’re looking for someone to take the blame. L.O.L
Check Mate !

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A Coup too Far
A Coup too Far
Reply to  Eddy
July 13, 2021

There’s a special place in Hell reserved for that sorry lot and their enablers.

Smoking Eagle
Smoking Eagle
Reply to  Eddy
July 13, 2021

They even forced Russian children to use Ukrainian names in schools. They deserve to be checkmated.

Franz Beckenbauer
Franz Beckenbauer
July 11, 2021

Three points: The russiophobia – real or for show – in the current government is so complete that the only way forward is to get rid of them. Which is already happening. There are lots of empty chairs around the table when the clown meets with his crowd these days. The whining of the silly jew in Kyiv is not just about ukraine’s international situation, but also about his misery at home. In the oblasts, local governments don’t give a shit about the crazies jn Kyiv any more. The lockdown was just ignored and people went on with their lives.… Read more »

Franz Beckenbauer
Franz Beckenbauer
July 11, 2021

By the way: if anybody still has doubts about hiw fucked up “the west” is and why the situation in eastern ukraine is kept going, here’s the answer:

https://time.com/6076035/erik-prince-ukraine-private-army

So much for Trump. The US is run by the military industrail complex. Everything else is just show.

Lots of stuff coming to light since little errand biy Protasevich found himself downed in Minsk.

'Tis of Thee
'Tis of Thee
Reply to  Franz Beckenbauer
July 11, 2021

Exactly. The US manages to give birth to so many Princes of Darkness that one starts to wonder if the entire national enterprise isn’t a Shakespearean (or even Machiavellian) construct.

Frigga
Frigga
July 11, 2021

Ukraine, as a country with two opposite political and geopolitical views, I mean torn apart between the west and the east need perspectives going beyond this rupture. Of course the USA, once again has played out its geopolitical play in a very irresponsible way in Ukraine, provoking a war and bloodshed within Ukraine’s borders. But the people in Ukraine should have sought about their brothers in eastern Ukraine and never should have taken arms against the Ukrainians in the east. Let’s remember the horrible US play with the Irak – Iran war in the 80s. When a leader of any… Read more »

Solomon
Solomon
Reply to  Frigga
July 13, 2021

What Russia gave, Russia can take away.

Split it down the middle.

Kerwas
Kerwas
July 11, 2021
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NS2 will be build AND running undistrubed, because if the US doesn’t want to loose their germany puppet they have to give it to them. Becaue they NEED the NS2 pipe desperatly. Germany will break down without it idf any thing happen to any other of the Pipelines.

Kitchen Debates
Kitchen Debates
Reply to  Kerwas
July 13, 2021

I think most of Europe has turned flakey. Better to make pastries with it than negotiate with it.

MY 'rules-based order'
MY 'rules-based order'
July 13, 2021

Ukraine can pound salt as far as I’m concerned.

PS: there is NO statute of limitations on war crimes. I am patient.

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