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CHINA TO US: ‘Calm down and stop making threats’

China is tired of threats from the US.

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With the arms race between North Korea and the United States formalised after recent statements by both Donald Trump and Kim Jong-Un, China is rapidly losing patience over the situation on the Korean peninsula.

After months of Donald Trump provocatively hectoring China about North Korea, under the false assumption that North Korea is a uniquely Chinese responsibility, China has now called on the US to do more to de-escalate the situation in a statement that seeks to highlight America’s own irresponsible and threatening remarks which are almost always met with predictable retaliation from Pyongyang.

China’s Ambassador to the United States, Cui Tiankai has said,

“Honestly, I think the United States should be doing… much more than now, so that there’s real effective international cooperation on this issue.

They should refrain from issuing more threats. They should do more to find effective ways to resume dialogue and negotiation”.

Here, China has voiced a view that is not dissimilar to that of Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin resented stated that it is not realistic to expect North Korea to simply stop its weapons program entirely as the lessons of Libya and Iraq being attacked from a position of not being able to defend themselves, is etched deeply on the North Korean psyche.

As The Duran previously reported,

“After strongly condemning North Korea’s recent nuclear test, the Russian President explained that after seeing how Iraq and Libya were unilaterally decimated by US forces, North Korea has determined that a nuclear deterrent is the only thing which will spare Pyongyang a similarly grim fate.

Rather than play games of nuclear chicken Putin warned that a dialogue based approach to de-escalation on the Korean peninsula is the only rational approach. He stated,

“Ramping up military hysteria in such conditions is senseless; it’s a dead end. It could lead to a global, planetary catastrophe and a huge loss of human life. There is no other way to solve the North Korean nuclear issue, save that of peaceful dialogue”.

He continued,

“It is necessary to push the issue to a dialogue between all interested parties. All participants in this process, including North Korea, should not have any of these considerations that are associated with the threat of destruction, but, on the contrary, all parties to the conflict should get on the path of cooperation”.

Putin echoed the previous words of his Foreign Ministery Sergey Lavrov who cautioned that “starving” North Korea with sanctions will only create a humanitarian disaster on top of a tense military stand-off. Putin said,

“As I told my colleagues yesterday, they (North Koreans) will eat grass but will not stop their program as long as they do not feel safe. What can restore their security? The restoration of international law“.

Turning to Donald Trump’s Tweet threatening to instigate US trade embargoes against any nation which has any trade with North Korea, Putin joined China in condemning the ridiculous proposal.

He stated,

“Of course, it is ridiculous to put us on one sanctions list with North Korea and then to ask to help them with sanctions exercises against North Korea”.

Putin further explained that while Russia does trade with North Korea, the turnover if “virtually zero”. Putin proceeded to explain that while many countries, including US allies trade with North Korea, no country in the world is making any significant amounts of money from such trade.

In this sense, China and Russia are both increasingly fed up with a Washington adminsitration that is fuelling a situation that Moscow and Beijing seek to extinguish through compromise.

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Jeffrey Spinner
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Dude…did you just report China told a histrionic woman to stfu? You know that will only make her scream worse and longer right?

Ignore her. The rogue US gov’t is in it’s death throws. The second you stop listening to a woman, her power ends. Make a note of it.

Bluster has always been a sign of weakness. The world listens and understands. That’s why they wait and watch and LAUGH and LAUGH. Too bad I live in NYC, I’m a dead man walking.

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I guess we understand that the comments-section is for comments and there is a “reply” button for conversations, right? Ok, so I’ll reply that your comment strikes as *very* American. But I chuckle as I write that, because it is serious when you say you live in NYC, dead man walking. So please consider: The world listens and understands, as you say, but no one is laughing. The big question is, Since the US gov’t has always been rogue, and since the US gov’t in the past has bludgeoned and extorted with the bluster that “we will go it alone… Read more »

Guy
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Guy

Well said George .
“But the US also agreed to move to political and diplomatic discussion of solutions.”

So included in the UNSC agreement for sanctions against NK ,the US had to do it’s part and start talking to NK if I understand your statement correctly ?

GeorgeG
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GeorgeG

Exactly right, that is the resolution. And that is what the Chinese statement is based on. It is not just a diplomatic “opinion,” it is the resolution.

Guy
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Guy

Thank you for the confirmation.

tcburnett
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tcburnett

A headline about China…then two sentences from China and the rest of the article quotes Putin. OK, so much for my reading a NYT clone.

Sun Tzu
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Sun Tzu

Its time for China to rein-in the puppet!!!

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

SunTzu is made up.

Punisher 1
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Punisher 1

That is a difficult task. The US doesn’t seem to want to listen.I figure that is what you must have meant. You surely aren’t foolish enough to think the US propaganda about China controlling North Korea is true are you.

Seán Murphy
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Didn’t know the USA was China’s puppet. Thanks for the info.

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Sean, if we are talking about the number of U.S. state obligations bought by China then the USA is more than a puppet.

Guy
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Ironic that sanctions are placed against Russia and the US wants Russia to place sanctions on NK ,isn’t it ?

Putin certainly is no fool .Probably why the US wants to brand RT ,Sputnik as enemy agents , so the American people would have less likelihood of hearing opposing viewpoints .

Le Ruse
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Le Ruse

Don’t you know, what’s a “chutzpah” ??

cortisol
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cortisol

As US relevance decreases in the world stage, the relevance of their sanctions decreases as well. Threatening poor and defenseless nations or placing sanctions on them or others does nothing to halt the decrease of the US$ in trade.

Their only strategy is to arm yankee jihadis under the Saudi wahhabism influence on the Eurasian continent to sow as much war and chaos as possible. That is aimed at others from taking their place and preventing a more multi polar world.

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Have a cigar!

As The Duran previously reported,

“After strongly condemning North Korea’s recent nuclear test, the Russian President explained that after seeing how Iraq and Libya were unilaterally decimated by US forces, North Korea has determined that a nuclear deterrent is the only thing which will spare Pyongyang a similarly grim fate…”
As simple as that!
If the “Krshko” had reached the level of plutonium enrichment back 1985 as North Korea has right now it will never be thorn apart 5 years later. But it was on it’s way to do it, and it was the main reason for the war in Balkans.

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“If the “Krshko” had reached the level of uranium enrichment back in 1985 as North Korea has right now Yugoslavia would never be thorn apart 5 years later. But it was on it’s way to do it, and it was the main reason for the war in Balkans.”

I have to admit I did not know that. Very interesting. I think I’m going to have to educate myself on that. Got a link?

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Break up of Yugoslavia is a subject of discussion, there are plenty of occasions and hidden things we don’t know yet. If you take a wider look on Yugoslav economy powered by pretty large state industries able to produce all kinds of weapons and weapon systems including several types of fighter jets, conquering of nuclear technology in 1983 was a signal to the West that something must be done to stop the growing economical and military threat. Krshko was the first western type nuclear power plant installed in a socialist country of the Eastern Block. Again, there are plenty of… Read more »

Dennis Morrisseau
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A CHILD could solve this problem if that child had decent intentions and a good briefing.
Give NK a peace treaty and some guarantees you ignorant a**holes !

Trauma2000
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Trauma2000

2nd That! All NK has wanted for more than Half a Century was a peace treaty. And the U.$. refused to sign one. Russia tried to give the Kuril’s back to Japan during the 50’s (think it was 56); all that was required was a peace treaty. The U.$. literally veto’ed it and refused to let the Japanese Government ratify it. Same think happened in East Germany, until the USSR willingly dissolved itself based on assurances that turned out to be TWO FACED LIES. I think the writing is on the wall when it comes to ‘negotiating peace’ with the… Read more »

Putin's baby
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Putin's baby

Problem is that the WH is like a children’s play ground.

Franz Kafka
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Franz Kafka

The USA is intelligence and diplomacy-incapable.

Tommy Jensen
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Tommy Jensen

Noone is gonna tell America where we should make threats. If we wanna bomb North Korea we bomb them and nobody can do a shit about it.

Franz Kafka
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Franz Kafka

You will soon be quarantined and left to get well, or die. I personally prefer the latter.

santiago
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santiago

The same goes for every country and individual. The US can’t do shit, if a loon wants to blow someone up in DC.

The thing is that the US will have consequences it already has them and not just the tip or the start, the US is looking straight at it’s own devastating consequences and no one can do shit, the US will go down the drain and no one can or will do shit.

pogohere
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The rest of the world is not constipated. Watch what happens at the UN this week. It should be quite entertaining, especially for the US and its fans.

BYO tp.

Franz Kafka
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Franz Kafka

Never could it be said with more certainty that the US, like its tail and virus Israel, has lost all right and reason to exist.

samo war
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samo war

Capital city usa is Richmondd ???

silversurf
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silversurf

No mention of NK shooting missiles over Japan

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Understanding the Holodomor and why Russia says nothing

A descendant of Holodomor victims takes the rest of us to school as to whether or not Russia needs to shoulder the blame.

Seraphim Hanisch

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One of the charges that nationalist Ukrainians often lodge against their Russian neighbors is that the Russian government has never acknowledged or formally apologized to Ukraine for the “Holodomor” that took place in Ukraine in 1932-1933. This was a man-made famine that killed an estimated seven to 10 million Ukrainians , though higher estimates claim 12.5 million and lower ones now claim 3.3 million.

No matter what the total was, it amounts to a lot of people that starved to death. The charge that modern-day Russia ought to apologize for this event is usually met with silence, which further enrages those Ukrainians that believe that this issue must be resolved by the Russian acknowledgement of responsibility for it. Indeed, the prime charge of these Ukrainians is that the Russians committed a genocide against the Ukrainian people. This is a claim Russia denies.

To the outside observer who does not know this history of Russia and Ukraine’s relationship, and who does not know or understand the characteristics of the Soviet Union, this charge seems as simple and laid out as that of the Native Americans or the blacks demanding some sort of recompense or restitution for the damages inflicted on these societies through conquest and / or slavery. But we discovered someone who had family connections involved in the Holodomor, and who offers her own perspective, which is instructive in why perhaps the Russian Federation does not say anything about this situation.

Scene in Kharkiv with dead from the famine 1932-33 lying along the street.

The speaker is Anna Vinogradova, a Russian Israeli-American, who answered the question through Quora of “Why doesn’t Russia recognize the Holodomor as a genocide?” She openly admits that she speaks only for herself, but her answer is still instructive. We offer it here, with some corrections for the sake of smooth and understandable English:

I can’t speak for Russia and what it does and doesn’t recognize. I can speak for myself.

I am a great-granddaughter of a “Kulak” (кулак), or well-to-do peasant, who lived close to the Russia/Ukraine border.

The word “кулак” means “fist” in Russian, and it wasn’t a good thing for a person to be called by this label. A кулак was an exploiter of peasants and a class enemy of the new state of workers and poor peasants. In other words, while under Communism, to be called a кулак was to bring a death sentence upon yourself.

At some point, every rural class enemy, every peasant who wasn’t a member of a collective farm was eliminated one way or another.

Because Ukraine has very fertile land and the Ukrainian style of agriculture often favors individual farms as opposed to villages, there is no question that many, many Ukrainian peasants were considered class enemies like my great grandfather, and eliminated in class warfare.

I have no doubt that class warfare included starvation, among other things.

The catch? My great grandfather was an ethnic Russian living in Russia. What nationality were the communists who persecuted and eventually shot him? They were of every nationality there was (in the Soviet Union), and they were led by a Ukrainian, who was taking orders from a Georgian.

Now, tell me, why I, a descendant of an unjustly killed Russian peasant, need to apologize to the descendants of the Ukrainians who killed him on the orders of a Georgian?

What about the Russian, Kazakh golodomor (Russian rendering of the same famine)? What about the butchers, who came from all ethnicities? Can someone explain why it’s only okay to talk about Ukrainian victims and Russian persecutors? Why do we need to rewrite history decades later to convert that brutal class war into an ethnic war that it wasn’t?

Ethnic warfare did not start in Russia until after WWII, when some ethnicities were accused of collaboration with the Nazis and brutal group punishments were implemented. It was all based on class up to that time.

The communists of those years were fanatically internationalist. “Working people of all countries, unite!” was their slogan and they were fanatical about it.

As for the crimes of Communism, Russia has been healing this wound for decades, and Russia’s government has made its anticommunist position very clear.

This testimony is most instructive. First, it points out information that the charge of the Holodomor as “genocide!” neatly leaves out. In identifying the internationalist aspects of the Soviet Union, Ukraine further was not a country identified as somehow worthy of genocidal actions. Such a thought makes no sense, especially given the great importance of Ukraine as the “breadbasket” of the Soviet Union, which it was.

Secondly, it shows a very western-style of “divide to conquer” with a conveniently incendiary single-word propaganda tool that is no doubt able to excite any Ukrainian who may be neutral to slightly disaffected about Russia, and then after that, all Ukrainians are now victims of the mighty evil overlords in Moscow.

How convenient is this when the evil overlords in Kyiv don’t want their citizens to know what they are doing?

We saw this on Saturday – taken to a very high peak when President Petro Poroshenko announced the new leading “Hierarch” of the “Ukrainian National Church” and said not one single word about Christ, but only:

“This day will go down in history as the day of the creation of an autocephalous Orthodox church in Ukraine… This is the day of the creation of the church as an independent structure… What is this church? It is a church without Putin. It is a church without Kirill, without prayer for the Russian authorities and the Russian army.”

But as long as Russia is made the “problem”, millions of scandalized Ukrainians will not care what this new Church actually does or teaches, which means it is likely to teach just about anything.

Russia had its own Holodomor. The history of the event shows that this was a result of several factors – imposed socialist economics on a deeply individualized form of agrarian capitalism (bad for morale and worse for food production), really inane centralized planning of cropland use, and a governmental structure that really did not exist to serve the governed, but to impose an ideology on people who really were not all that interested in it.

Personal blame might well lay with Stalin, a Georgian, but the biggest source of the famine lay in the structures imposed under communism as a way of economic strategy. This is not Russia’s fault. It is the economic model that failed.

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Mueller Finally Releases Heavily Redacted Key Flynn Memo On Eve Of Sentencing

Alex Christoforou

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Having initially snubbed Judge Emmet Sullivan’s order to release the original 302 report from the Michael Flynn interrogation in January 2017, Special Counsel Robert Mueller has finally produced the heavily redacted document, just hours before sentencing is due to be handed down.

The memo  – in full below – details then-national security adviser Michael Flynn’s interview with FBI agents Peter Strzok and Joe Pientka, and shows Flynn was repeatedly asked about his contacts with former Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and in each instance, Flynn denied (or did not recall) any such conversations.

The agents had transcripts of Flynn’s phone calls to Russian Ambassador Kislyak, thus showing Flynn to be lying.

Flynn pleaded guilty guilty last December to lying to the FBI agents about those conversations with Kislyak.

The redactions in the document seem oddly placed but otherwise, there is nothing remarkable about the content…

Aside from perhaps Flynn’s incredulity at the media attention…

Flynn is set to be sentenced in that federal court on Tuesday.

Of course, as Christina Laila notes, the real crime is that Flynn was unmasked during his phone calls to Kislyak and his calls were illegally leaked by a senior Obama official to the Washington Post.

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Full document below…

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Don’t Laugh : It’s Giving Putin What He Wants

The fact of the matter is that humorous lampooning of western establishment Russia narratives writes itself.

Caitlin Johnstone

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The BBC has published an article titled “How Putin’s Russia turned humour into a weapon” about the Kremlin’s latest addition to its horrifying deadly hybrid warfare arsenal: comedy.

The article is authored by Olga Robinson, whom the BBC, unhindered by any trace of self-awareness, has titled “Senior Journalist (Disinformation)”. Robinson demonstrates the qualifications and acumen which earned her that title by warning the BBC’s audience that the Kremlin has been using humor to dismiss and ridicule accusations that have been leveled against it by western governments, a “form of trolling” that she reports is designed to “deliberately lower the level of discussion”.

“Russia’s move towards using humour to influence its campaigns is a relatively recent phenomenon,” Robinson explains, without speculating as to why Russians might have suddenly begun laughing at their western accusers. She gives no consideration to the possibility that the tightly knit alliance of western nations who suddenly began hysterically shrieking about Russia two years ago have simply gotten much more ridiculous and easier to make fun of during that time.

Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the emergence of a demented media environment wherein everything around the world from French protests to American culture wars to British discontent with the European Union gets blamed on Russia without any facts or evidence. Wherein BBC reporters now correct guests and caution them against voicing skepticism of anti-Russia narratives because the UK is in “an information war” with that nation. Wherein the same cable news Russiagate pundit can claim that both Rex Tillerson’s hiring and his later firing were the result of a Russian conspiracy to benefit the Kremlin. Wherein mainstream outlets can circulate blatantly false information about Julian Assange and unnamed “Russians” and then blame the falseness of that reporting on Russian disinformation. Wherein Pokemon Go, cutesy Facebook memes and $4,700 in Google ads are sincerely cited as methods by which Hillary Clinton’s $1.2 billion presidential campaign was outdone. Wherein conspiracy theories that Putin has infiltrated the highest levels of the US government have been blaring on mainstream headline news for two years with absolutely nothing to show for it to this day.

Nope, the only possibility is that the Kremlin suddenly figured out that humor is a thing.

The fact of the matter is that humorous lampooning of western establishment Russia narratives writes itself. The hypocrisy is so cartoonish, the emotions are so breathlessly over-the-top, the stories so riddled with plot holes and the agendas underlying them so glaringly obvious that they translate very easily into laughs. I myself recently authored a satire piece that a lot of people loved and which got picked up by numerous alternative media outlets, and all I did was write down all the various escalations this administration has made against Russia as though they were commands being given to Trump by Putin. It was extremely easy to write, and it was pretty damn funny if I do say so myself. And it didn’t take any Kremlin rubles or dezinformatsiya from St Petersburg to figure out how to write it.

“Ben Nimmo, an Atlantic Council researcher on Russian disinformation, told the BBC that attempts to create funny memes were part of the strategy as ‘disinformation for the information age’,” the article warns. Nimmo, ironically, is himself intimately involved with the British domestic disinformation firm Integrity Initiative, whose shady government-sponsored psyops against the Labour Party have sparked a national scandal that is likely far from reaching peak intensity.

“Most comedy programmes on Russian state television these days are anodyne affairs which either do not touch on political topics, or direct humour at the Kremlin’s perceived enemies abroad,” Robinson writes, which I found funny since I’d just recently read an excellent essay by Michael Tracey titled “Why has late night swapped laughs for lusting after Mueller?”

“If the late night ‘comedy’ of the Trump era has something resembling a ‘message,’ it’s that large segments of the nation’s liberal TV viewership are nervously tracking every Russia development with a passion that cannot be conducive to mental health – or for that matter, political efficacy,” Tracey writes, documenting numerous examples of the ways late night comedy now has audiences cheering for a US intelligence insider and Bush appointee instead of challenging power-serving media orthodoxies as programs like The Daily Show once did.

If you wanted the opposite of “anodyne affairs”, it would be comedians ridiculing the way all the establishment talking heads are manipulating their audiences into supporting the US intelligence community and FBI insiders. It would be excoriating the media environment in which unfathomably powerful world-dominating government agencies are subject to less scrutiny and criticism than a man trapped in an embassy who published inconvenient facts about those agencies. It certainly wouldn’t be the cast of Saturday Night Live singing “All I Want for Christmas Is You” to a framed portrait if Robert Mueller wearing a Santa hat. It doesn’t get much more anodyne than that.

Russia makes fun of western establishment narratives about it because those narratives are so incredibly easy to make fun of that they are essentially asking for it, and the nerdy way empire loyalists are suddenly crying victim about it is itself more comedy. When Guardian writer Carole Cadwalladr began insinuating that RT covering standard newsworthy people like Julian Assange and Nigel Farage was a conspiracy to “boost” those people for the advancement of Russian agendas instead of a news outlet doing the thing that news reporting is, RT rightly made fun of her for it. Cadwalladr reacted to RT’s mockery with a claim that she was a victim of “attacks”, instead of the recipient of perfectly justified ridicule for circulating an intensely moronic conspiracy theory.

Ah well. People are nuts and we’re hurtling toward a direct confrontation with a nuclear superpower. Sometimes there’s nothing else to do but laugh. As Wavy Gravy said, “Keep your sense of humor, my friend; if you don’t have a sense of humor it just isn’t funny anymore.”

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