The MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western media is willing to report

Western main stream media quickly picked up and dissected last nights Russian Channel 1 satellite image, suggesting the Malaysian Boeing MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian warplane…because it is obviously a doctored photo.

As military expert and analyst The Saker quickly reported:

I am quite sure that the photo of the MH-17 being shot down is fake. The military aircraft appears to be a SU-27, the angle is wrong, as is the side of the attack, and this is not a satellite picture.

What was not reported on, and what appears to be very legit and very hard to dispute, is the below radar data from Russia’s Rostov oblast (a region bordering East Ukraine) indicating that military aircraft were in the air near Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 when it crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17.

The image was released by a Russian air safety consultancy and reported yesterday via RT…

The consultancy provided a snapshot representing the readings taken by a radar station located in Russia’s Rostov, near the Ukrainian border, shortly before and about 20 minutes after the MH17 crash.

 

According to Sergey Melnichenko, CEO of Aviation Safety consultancy, there were one or two warplanes in the air close to the Malaysian airliner. The data casts doubt on the version of the tragedy favored by Western nations, which claims the plane was shot down from the ground by rebel forces with a sophisticated surface-to-air missile.

The data “came from an air traffic control center in Rostov,” Melnichenko told Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper, declining to reveal which one and whether it was civilian or military. He assured that “we have full trust in the sources, which helped us make it available to the public.”

“The data clearly shows that at the moment of the crash and after it there were planes moving north of the Boeing course. Most likely, they were military, because the spots are very close to each other. The conclusion is that there were either one or two aircraft there,” Melnichenko told the daily.

Another indication that the planes in question were military aircraft is the fact that they didn’t respond to being scanned, Melnichenko said. Civilian planes always reply to signals from radar, while military aircraft are “usually unequipped with transmitter-responders or the pilots turn them off during combat flights,” he explained.

With the rebel forces possessing no air force of their own, Russia and Ukraine are the most logical parties to send warplanes to that area, the expert said. But it would have been impossible for a Russian warplane to make it over the border without being detected by Ukrainian and NATO radars.

“There would’ve been reaction on something like that long ago – from NATO and Ukraine. But there was no reaction because there was nothing to react to,” he explained.

Several days after the MH17 crash, the Russian Defense Ministry released evidence that it detected a Ukrainian fighter jet near the Boeing at the time of the catastrophe. Kiev denied deploying any jets on that day, but it had been routinely using aviation to deliver airstrikes at rebel positions.

According to Melnichenko, the new data is consistent with that published by the military.

“Our data is somewhat more precise…they didn’t present the airplane’s flight paths as clearly. But maybe they did it intentionally, I don’t know,” he said.

The expert added that the presence of military planes north of the Boeing would put them in a position to the left of the plane. Some photos from the crash site showed damage to the cockpit’s left side, consistent with a scenario of an attack by those planes.

Now back to The Saker and his take on the radar image…

The Russian newspaper MK has obtained a screenshot of the recording of a civilian Russian radar screen in Rostov – just east of the Russian-Ukrainian border.

What this image shows is 20 minutes of recording of the airspace before and after the shooting down of MH17. The course of MH17 is shown in purple while the numerous little blue “T” shaped objects in the circle show the radar return of one or, possibly two, aircraft which either do not have a transponder or which have not switched it on. Either way, since we know that the Novorussian Resistance did not have aircraft, and since we know that the Ukrainians have denied that they had any aircraft anywhere near this area at that time, and since we know that had this been a Russian aircraft the US/NATO AWACS and satellites would have picked it up and presented this damning proof a long time ago we can come to the only possible conclusion: the Ukies and their US/EU patrons are lying, the aircraft seen on the radar are Ukrainian, no Buk missile was involved in the shooting (though I personally believe that one was used to cue the Ukrainian aircraft to MH17) and that MH17 was shot down by a combo of gun and missile fire from one or two Ukrainian aircraft.

The Saker

PS: by the way, if a civilian radar needs a return signal from a transponder to get the identity, altitude and speed of an aircraft, military radars do not. Since I am quite sure that the Russians also had plenty of military radars in the region, I am equally sure that, just as the US and NATO, the Russian military also has the ironclad proof that the Ukies did it in the form of radar track recordings. Whether they will ever present such proof or not (and I am sure that they would prefer not to) or whether they will only generate such “leaks” from civilian sources as the one today in MK instead is unclear to me. I guess it depends on what the AngloZionist propaganda says.

Slowly but surely the truth, and the ongoing but oft forgotten cover up will surface. Until then commenters who did happen to run across the radar image news are having a very hard time dealing with the reality of the situation.

Taking the red pill is a painful and lonely process, as you awaken to the deception overload that was shovelled into your mind.  It’s a lot easier to live under the comfortable numbness of the blue pill.

These commenters below, from the Examiner.com (which did run the story) are in the denial / anger phase, of awakening from a lifelong slumber of lies…

The short and sweet, “Russian RT propaganda” denial…
So, the report comes from RT, one of Putin’s greatest propaganda arms, and from a snapshot taken at a Russian flight control center, and has taken months to be released. Am I the only one who thinks this is bogus?

The “I saw it on youtube so it must be fact” denial…
This report is from RT. It bears no credibility in its contents because it is coming straight from Russia. The fact remains that the plane was shot down by rebels who are continually being supported by Russia. The truck that shot the passenger plane was even shown on youtube with Russian plates. You cannot change the facts. That is it and even now Russians in their attempt to show off their military power have been flying wrecklessly all over Europe. It would not surprise me if they shoot down another passenger airline jet or crash against another plane by accident. I wonder what their excuse would be then? The world is not stupid. Are they going to say it was not their military planes?

The “I didn’t get the memo that the audio recordings have been proven a hoax” denial…
Ok, why is no one quoting the separtists audio recordings saying they just shot down a airliner. Did everyone forget this? Also I wouldn’t believe one thing that RT reports. I’ve watched this channel while in Ukraine and couldnt believe how they twisted every story to make the West look bad.

The “I did not get the memo that the Soviet Union does not exists” denial…
So there are no Soviet troops continuously crossing the border into Ukraine. . .Putin was not accompanied by warships to a trade conference in Australia. . Soviet military & spy aircraft aren’t encroaching on Western air space. . .homosexuality is allowed in the Soviet union. . . .Pu$$y Riot are free to protest the Soviet government. . .oligarchs that own oil companies & dare protest Putin’s policies are not robbed of their corporations. . .uh, huh. . .right. . .meet the Soviet Union. . .same as the old Soviet union. . .threatening a return to the Cold War policies & using threats of nuclear war to buttress their policies & rationalize their display of might. . .

The “I did not get the memo the Soviet Union does not exist, and NATO expansion map” denial…
The difference is NATO hasn’t disrupted the borders, air space & travel of those in & of an autonomous nation. . . meanwhile the Soviet Union continues to engage in bullying tactics; the main reason the conflict in Ukraine exists is the Soviet union has been attempting to extort control of Ukraine by forcing them to join other Eastern Bloc nations in a Soviet run anti NATO group. . .exerting the increasingly growing debt Ukraine owes the Soviet union & hiking oil prices many fold over market value. . .to separate Ukraine from the rest of the world. . .without the freedom to render their own choice. . .

Do you really think we are that daft? Please.

The nice try with “some logical reasoning” denial…
…let’s reason this out! The separatists in Eastern Ukraine never flew a plane in the whole period of this crises. Why would a Ukrainean military aircraft target Malaysian airline flight MH17? Was it suspected to be a fighter plane operatd by the Separatists? Did the Separatists ever operated one that could have called for such suspicion?

We wish all the commenters well on their journey to truth, hopefully they too will reach a stage when such tragedies and crimes like MH17 will illicit a more red pill response, like these two commenters below:

A commenter asking the right questions…
Only 3 questions. Why US satellite data is not still released. Why 27 Ukrainian antiaircraft BUK (SA-11) launchers were deployed in the battle zone when MH17 was shot down? After all, rebels don’t have aviation. And is it by chance that Putin’s plane appeared there after 17 minutes after the tragedy?

A commenter who understands what’s a stake for the US if the truth gets out…
This was reported by the Malaysia New Straits Times a long time ago, but all in the west poo-pooed it. I read a comment here that the commenter believed the US finding . The US hasn’t published its finding, probably because it is the same as the Russian radar information. For the west to find or admit that Ukraine fighter planes shot down MH17 is unthinkable, as it nullifies all the US efforts and expenditure to draw Ukraine to the west and to exploit Ukraine mineral resources .

References:

http://rt.com/news/205339-mh17-air-plane-malaysian/

http://www.mk.ru/incident/2014/11/12/dannye-aviadispetcherov-podtverdili-ryadom-s-boingom-rukhnuvshim-na-ukraine-letel-voennyy-samolet.html

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/11/mh17-more-proof-that-ukies-did-it.html