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EU Splits on Russia As Merkel and Macron Want Talks With Putin

EU Splits on Russia As Merkel and Macron Want Talks With Putin

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waine
waine
June 25, 2021

I get the feeling that Germany and France are getting fed up with carrying the Balkan states, and looking for a way out. Russia is the answer, get those talks going pronto.

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
Reply to  waine
June 25, 2021

Balkan States? You probably mean the Baltic States and you possible right that they are fed up with the treacherous Baltics + Poland as deeply russophobe + hostile proxies and lackeys for their US+UK Pimps poisoning any kind of relations with Russia as if the vile constant fear/hate/war-mongering of NATO-Mafia isn’t counterproductive enough. Quick reminder, the forced-on EU Russia sanctions, facilitated by corrupt traitors sell-outs + US-Puppets/Proxies inside the EU + EU-Junta [illegitimate unelected EU Commission + Council], doesn’t damaged the Russian economy much but severely harmed damaged + weaken EU Economies dearly, specially damaged French + German economies….but that… Read more »

Agents Provocateur in our Beds
Agents Provocateur in our Beds
Reply to  Brokenspine66
June 26, 2021

They’ll yet rue the day when they brought Poland and the Baltics into NATO.

Uncle Sam the Illusionist
Uncle Sam the Illusionist
Reply to  Agents Provocateur in our Beds
June 26, 2021

George Bush was never the brightest diode in that hill’s shining light bulb.

The neo-Con Game
The neo-Con Game
Reply to  Brokenspine66
June 26, 2021

Balkan states, Baltic states – what’s in a name? It’s the game that’s the same.

The Mummy's Tale
The Mummy's Tale
Reply to  The neo-Con Game
June 26, 2021

The name of the game is Divide and Conquer. It’s as old as the Pyramids and employs no fewer amounts of slave labor, although I believe the Egyptians probably paid better.

Dubya
Dubya
Reply to  The neo-Con Game
June 27, 2021

I’m still trying to find Chechenslovenovakia on the map. It’s a darn sight easier when you bomb the place first but even then…..

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Heavenly Parmesan
Heavenly Parmesan
Reply to  Dubya
June 28, 2021

Ask your buddy Biden, he probably has copies of checks junior has received from them for something or other.

Franz Beckenbauer
Franz Beckenbauer
Reply to  waine
June 26, 2021

They did not “carry” the baltic states. They looted them. Just like the giant ponzi scheme of the EU always had to look for new “member states” to extract real wealth for their worthless paper euros. Just like they installed puppet regimes everywhere to do their bidding. But now the logical end has arrived like for all Ponzi schemes: the whole thing ends at the borders of russia. The EU is finished. Switzerland said no, the eastern europeans are fed up, the balkan states, especially serbia, realize they’re much closer to their brothers and sisters in russia than the idiots… Read more »

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
Reply to  Franz Beckenbauer
June 26, 2021

Bernie Madoff died in prison just for ONE reason, he ripped-off and robbed ‘only’ rich folks. If he just ripped-off looted plundered robbed just the ordinary little common people, the poor, taxpayer + society…like the Elites/Oligarchs AKA ‘Rich’ 24/7 do for centuries….he would gone scott free like ‘They’ always do because they are ALL corrupt/criminal/kleptocratic Ghouls and Parasites, the whole system is rigged corrupted rotten to the core because of ‘Them’ to favor ‘Them’. Don’t get me wrong, Madoff wasn’t a Robin Hood, he surely gave a total fuck about ordinary people but he at least robbed the real criminals.… Read more »

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The Panama Papers are Burning
The Panama Papers are Burning
Reply to  Brokenspine66
June 26, 2021

He robbed his own tribe mostly. It happens in close-knit cultures. Who did Ponzi victimize at first, mostly Italian-Americans. It’s human predatory nature.

The Reichstag is Burning
The Reichstag is Burning
Reply to  Franz Beckenbauer
June 26, 2021

Speaking from experience, all those aging ex-Nazis the US imported with paperclip chains couldn’t resist schooling Washington’s ex-Trotskiites turned Neocons on what a prize the Baltic states would be.

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
Reply to  The Reichstag is Burning
June 26, 2021

As a matter of historic facts the Baltic States were full-blown NAZI collaborators participants + accomplices in the war of aggression against the USSR and in the Holocaust…until the USSR stopped them for good, like the UkroNAZI scum from western Ukraine who today hold most of Ukraine hostage.

The Lampoon
The Lampoon
Reply to  Brokenspine66
June 26, 2021

What? You mean you can’t exercise the God-given right to free expression without risking death? You know, the one that Washington says it invaded to bestow upon the Ukraine people?

Never heard of such a thing. Does Biden know about this?

The Ghost Whisperer
The Ghost Whisperer
Reply to  The Lampoon
June 27, 2021

If he does, he’s already forgotten.

The neo-Con Game
The neo-Con Game
Reply to  waine
June 26, 2021

Now they’ll have to carry Ukraine too, compensating it for any losses NS2 brings to it. Can you just imagine? All out of a shame that they let Nuland and Co. ride roughshod over them in carrying out an illegal coup with all its predictable consequences.

Can’t tell if it’s a true shame or the shame one feels when they’ve been conned by scammers and too ashamed to admit it to the world.

Uhhh
Uhhh
Reply to  The neo-Con Game
June 27, 2021

So what happens if Ukraine refuses to pay for gas again. Will Germany compensate Russia?

Something's funny about hegemoney
Something's funny about hegemoney
Reply to  Uhhh
July 1, 2021

Probably, Uncle Sammie’s waiting in the wings to confiscate any German payments for RU nat gas before they leave the bank, in the name of ‘something or other’. They’ll assign the cause to fit the confiscation as the opportunity arises.

The Emperor has no Clothes
The Emperor has no Clothes
Reply to  waine
June 26, 2021

All Putin’s been lobbying for these past ten years is an inclusive European security architecture that reflects post-Soviet European realities. Consider NATO’s visceral expansionist reaction to that and you’ll understand everything you need to know about them. Simple as that.

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Icksy Nixx
Icksy Nixx
June 25, 2021

It is very important to state that “the Dutch” as a people do NOT support the ducht prime minister cs. The dutch prime minister is known and proven to be a notorious liar. He has no credability by the dutch people and has no authority whatsoever. Further more, the dutch minister of foreign affairs as well as the dutch prime minister are declared enemies of Russia and will do anything in their power to oppose Russia when given the opprtunity. But please, take note and be well aware of the fact that a great part of the dutch people have… Read more »

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
Reply to  Icksy Nixx
June 26, 2021

It’s literally the same case in Germany, the hostile russophobia [+ increasing sinophobia] that parts of the Regime, Elites/Oligarchs, Politclown Establishment and all their Fake-News/Propaganda MSM Shills Lackeys + Prestitutes shown with their aggitation and fear/hate/war-mongering….doesn’t reflect the views + stance in the majority of the population…as polls, again and again have shown the majority doesn’t not see Russia or China as threat at all but they see the US + NATO-Mafia as threat. I guess the picture in most EU countries would be the same except in the Baltic States + Poland it’s artificial hyped + exaggerated since they… Read more »

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Mark
Mark
Reply to  Icksy Nixx
June 26, 2021

I agree! I’m also dutch and I can also state that our mp is a liar, a big fat liar! I also agree that I have more sympathy with Russia than with the EU or our government.

FranBrown
FranBrown
Reply to  Icksy Nixx
June 26, 2021

It’s the same with the British and their government, the Dutch people’s are not alone. ❤️

What's Good for the Goose........
What's Good for the Goose........
Reply to  FranBrown
June 26, 2021

Yeah, yeah, yeah…….heard it all ad nauseum. If a minority in Ukraine can violently usurp the majority’s democratic will, in the ‘name of democracy’, then what’s stopping you wimps? Afraid of what your landlord across the pond might say?

What's Good for the Goose........
What's Good for the Goose........
Reply to  What's Good for the Goose........
June 26, 2021

Probably because a fascist’s ideology either by right or left, though riddled with holes, is bulletproof in its beliefs whereas an enlightened soul is riddled with compromise, reflection and reluctance.

Why does the US while feigning democratic values so readily seek fascist/rightist diktat in its allies in South & Central America, the Balkans and now Eastern Europe? Because of their lack of ideological doubt. It makes for willing and reliable partners.

Dutch Boy Paints (the world with bullshit).
Dutch Boy Paints (the world with bullshit).
Reply to  Icksy Nixx
June 26, 2021

Well, the Dutch voted him in. If they really believe in Ukraine’s modus operandi, then they should engage in a violent putsch and try to kill him. At least herd some of his supporters into the Hague and burn them alive and stop parsing their beliefs.

The Felony of Farce
The Felony of Farce

Can’t stand nations that parse their beliefs. Can’t stand Ukraine either but at least it doesn’t parse its farces. It flies them high for all to see.

Dwight Clark
Dwight Clark
June 25, 2021

GPS System, commandeering of HMS Defender-Back in the USSR, you dont know how lucky you are, Ringo Star beach boys,, Star Navigational, probably the case, 2009 tour was well after USSR difficulties, Mr. Putin was in the audiance. Usuary a bad move..Learn and dont point your finger at me, pendulum doesnt seem to be theme involved. Iskur, Lord of Divinition, Dinger.

Snoop Doggy Dog
Snoop Doggy Dog
June 26, 2021

Why don’t they just give him a call? Too worried about Yankee snoopers I guess.

Vera Gottlieb
Vera Gottlieb
June 26, 2021

This obsession with Russia is crazy, ridiculous and going much too far. Just because we talk with Putin doesn’t mean we have to love him. It is high time to unseat all these “leaders’ and get people who much rather have peace than war.

Pox Americana
Pox Americana
Reply to  Vera Gottlieb
June 26, 2021

Esp. since Crimea did nothing Slovenia didn’t do and the Donbass nothing Kosovo didn’t do and unconstitutionally and without referendum or Yugo putsch in Slovenia’s case and by terrorist thugs no better than Ukraine’s fascist scum in Kosovo’s case but I guess that’s the difference. The US prefers that sort.

What did Albright call Thaqi the Snake… the great hope for democracy? You couldn’t make this sort of bullshit up. No one would believe it’s possible. Yet…..

And yet here we are, firmly in Act X of this replay of Les Miserables, American style.

Take a Knee
Take a Knee
Reply to  Pox Americana
June 27, 2021

It all boils down to that, doesn’t it? The beginning of a 25 year slide to oblivion. Either the US and EU acknowledge their perfidious behavior and swear to mend their ways or we all eventually end up in a glass lined nuclear hell. Perfidy being what it is, I’ve already resigned myself to the outcome.

Glove's Off Time
Glove's Off Time
Reply to  Pox Americana
July 1, 2021

I wish that Lavelle would just wise up and when confronted by numbnut analysts on his show declaring ‘Russia conquered Crimea’, just answer “….and the EU (and NATO) conquered Slovenia? Is that your point?” ans: (the point is that he has no point, he’ll just mumble something about nonsensical ‘whataboutism, before he’s shouted down once again in crudish fashion by Lavelle). Still haven’t learned to rope your opponents in in elegant fashion, have you Peter? Time to bring it into the mainstream: Both were extra-constitutional secessions and were quickly incorporated into a larger body politic. Both sparked civil wars and… Read more »

UNSC Res 2202
UNSC Res 2202
June 27, 2021

Talk is cheap. In Germany and France’s case, about half a euro.

Once Upon a Crime in America
Once Upon a Crime in America
July 1, 2021

EU splits on Russia and US snaps up opportunity to blame Russia for splitting EU.

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