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A reporter from the Jimmy Kimmel Live talk show went to Hollywood Boulevard to ask the man and woman on the street where North Korea is.

None of the individuals interviewed could locate North Korea while some of the gussies were as wildly inaccurate as to locate North Korea in Canada, Oman, Kazakhstan, Argentina, Iran, Australia, Brazil, China, India, Vietnam and Pakistan.

Notice that unlike some western maps, Russia is correctly listed as an Asian country. 

Now watch Americans being clueless about a country their President is threatening to reduce to flame.

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VeeNarian (Yerevan)
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VeeNarian (Yerevan)

Same old ignorant Yanks!

permopin
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permopin

And I suppose that is only the educated ones, like Waters.

Marc Leif
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Marc Leif

That’s very funny. Hey, at least she knew Putin’s Russia “annexed” Korea !

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

And recently she qualified Putin as Vice President of the United States! LOL
Alzheimer disease rule the American politics.

Marc Leif
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Marc Leif

Funny again. Forgot about that piece of brilliance.

permopin
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permopin

Russia left E Germany long ago, but Walter & Co have plans for Crimea.

thnkfryrslf
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thnkfryrslf

Many of them seem to think it’s okay to go to war with a country they can’t even find on a map! The biggest threat to the world is driven by American anti-intellectualism.

Simon
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Simon

Which is funny because the North Koreans seem to have a very good understanding of the location of Guam…or Seattle or LA etc.

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

If you make a survey, I bet that an overwhelming majority in US don’t know where Guam is.

Mike from Ramsbottom
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Mike from Ramsbottom

I believe that sadly, most of the sailors on the US ships which dock in Guam don’t know whereabouts in the world they are, either.

Marc Leif
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Marc Leif

That’s probably quite true.

Bryan
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Bryan

It is true, I went to Guam when I was in the USN serving the corporate oligarchy and I know I couldn’t point to it on an unlabeled map back then. Now that I’ve woken up, I can identify where most countries are.

Rick Rockwell
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Rick Rockwell

I’d bet lots of them don’t know where Seattle or LA is either.

Vera Gottlieb
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Vera Gottlieb

It is all a matter of education…

Mike
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Mike

Arh no, their military would, I suspect you ask everyday people on the street as they did here in US, then I doubt they would know. SO a bit of a stupid statement to make.

ExtremeMiddleOfTheRoader
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ExtremeMiddleOfTheRoader

> …the location of Guam…or Seattle or LA etc.
Seattle I understand, but I don’t recall the ‘Dear Leader’ having any interest in Louisiana.

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

Same thing happened in 2003. While approving the war on Iraq, 75% of Americans could not locate the country on a map.
Same thing happened in 2014. 87% of Americans couldn’t locate Ukraine on a world map.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/?utm_term=.aa3aada704d5

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

Where is North Korea? Here are guesses from 1,746 American adults: 64% couldn’t locate it on a map. The dots indicate their response:comment image

Shahna
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I see your map leaves out all those who think NK is in the US or Canada!
Which that interview showed – there are a few.

Bryan
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Bryan

From the results, they can’t even identify north and south. Why would anyone pick the southern portion of anywhere?

Marc Leif
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Marc Leif

Most Americans couldn’t find the US on a map. Imagine if they would have shown different planets —

Gonzogal
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Shahna
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From the second link:

actual courses that have been taught at U.S. universities in recent years…
-“What If Harry Potter Is Real?”
-“Lady Gaga and the Sociology of Fame”
-“Philosophy And Star Trek”
-“Learning From YouTube”
-“How To Watch Television”

BWAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAAH!
Sheesh – and they think they SHOULD rule the world!

Gonzogal
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Gonzogal

Isnt it full-blown CRAZY!? And yet they are taught and BELIEVE that they are the “Exceptional” Nation….exceptionally stupid covers it!

santiago
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santiago

Surreal for me, have to convince myself that is real.

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

What else could you expect from a less than 300-year-old country, with no history, no culture and not even a language of its own? Where a 110-year trinket is considered “antique”? So they study Gaga at University, but 80% cannot speak a second language.

Gonzogal
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Gonzogal

They cant even speak English correctly much less a second language!

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

English is my fourth 🙂

Avramijevdan
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Avramijevdan

It would be better if they wouldn’t know who alt right retards or left libtards are. And it would be much, much better if they would not fall for either Hitlery or Mr. Dumb. But these were just some girls so who cares. How about “serious” people being alt retards who are trying to sell to the rest of the world “we can change” story. How do they plan to do it? They invented the new name (alt retard) that’s how and they brought new President Mr. Dumb who will see it trough. After his term words retard and dumb… Read more »

Gonzogal
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Gonzogal

my2Cents
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my2Cents

Great video thanks!!

HerrinSchadenfreude
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HerrinSchadenfreude

I miss this show terribly.

Shahna
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“I have absolutely no idea where it is but hey – YEAH – let’s go BOMB it!”
That’s phücking Yanks for you!

You guys seen this one:
fort-russ.com/2017/08/refugees-leave-surroundings-of-palmyra.html

Vera Gottlieb
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Vera Gottlieb

And their own country most probably either.

Mike
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Mike

And there you have it….no need to say anymore.

US soldiers are pussies
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US soldiers are pussies

Americans are retards.

Mike Doverskog
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Mike Doverskog

I would love to disagree with you … but I can’t with a clean conscience. If I were to put it politely I’d probably go along the lines of that they are probably the most advanced nation in the general dumbing down race. 😉

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

They’re not supposed to know where it is, are they? John Taylor Gatto wrote an excellent book or essay years ago, called ‘Dumbing Us Down’. It sounds as though his observation has born fruit and been a resounding success.

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

“None of the individuals interviewed could locate North Korea”
I’m wondering if Trump can.
Obama obviously didn’t know where Afghanistan is, as he located it in the Middle East and wanted to send the American translators from Iraq to there. He thought Afghanis speak Arabic. He even claimed that Austrians speak … Austrian, and that Europe is a … country. He doesn’t even know how many states are in the United States! And he graduated from Harvard Law School “magna cum laude”!
While senator McCain spoke about Iraq and Afghanistan’s “common border” …

Mike Doverskog
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Mike Doverskog

Let’s just say that education in the US is … selective. 😉

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

Let’s just say that the level of education in US is awful.comment image
The United State ranks below the OECD average in every category: 31st in math, 24th in science and 21st in reading.

Marc Leif
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Marc Leif

I take it Russia is not a member of OECD?

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

I wondered about that too.

Mike Doverskog
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Mike Doverskog

What I meant by “selective” is that it seems to me that people can be highly qualified in science disciplines, business, law, medicine etc. but have a very poor understanding of culture, geography, demographics, history and ideology where it does not specifically is in regard to American history, American geography, American politics, American culture and so on. There is generally a complete lack, right from the top, of the imaginative capacity required to even contemplate that there exists value systems and beliefs that are entirely different to ones own. Thus conflicts arise, not always from animosity but from misunderstandings that… Read more »

Daisy Adler
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Daisy Adler

Specialization comes AFTER. The primary and secondary education are supposed to teach students general knowledge as reading, writing, math and science basis, history, geography, etc. At 18, any youth should be able to read a map, recognize continents, countries and capitals, own country and world general history, and to master at least ONE foreign language, all that French call “culture générale”. I’ve got all that from school. Later on, I’ got my Master Degree in Physics. When you see young Americans point on a map at Canada, Australia or Europe, instead of Korea and Asia, one has to wonder, what… Read more »

Mike Doverskog
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Mike Doverskog

Note how many of the countries with poor education scores are rich countries where kids have a very comfortable life, constant entertainment and never have to be bored enough to engage their own imagination. Where kids are so comfortable that education is the worst hardship they are made to endure rather than a way to not have to take part in the labor and drudgery of every day life. Where kids are encouraged by the western “rock’n’roll culture” to rebel against authority and do so by turning against their immediate authority figures, parents and teachers, rather than the corrupt institutions… Read more »

Marc Leif
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Marc Leif

Fortunately, the US government has Maxine Waters as an information resource.

Bryan
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Bryan

Actually, Russia is on both sides of the Ural Mountains making it EurAsia.

Bryan
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Bryan

for that matter, Europe and Asia are the same continent so it is all EurAsia.

Rob Steenwinkel
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Rob Steenwinkel

The Americans are so very stupid ………. and brainwashed to start war and kill humans and animals everywhere!
`The Axis Of Evil`

Mike Doverskog
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Mike Doverskog

Now go ask them about recent historical events and see if they know anything about the unfinished Korean war. How many Americans, for example, are aware of the fact that U.S. planes dropped on the Korean peninsula more bombs (635,000 tons) and napalm (32,557 tons) than during the entire Pacific campaign against the Japanese during World War II? How many Americans know that “over a period of three years or so,” to quote Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, “we killed off … 20 percent of the population”? According to LeMay,… Read more »

guber
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guber

This is bullshit. The same 3 or 4 women are shown guessing wildly wrong over and over again. This says nothing. But if you want to make it say something, then do note that the 3 different men were pointing into the generally correct direction and likely had it down bulls-eye on second attempt, which is why each one of them is shown only once. Total edited rubbish.

michael m
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michael m

Best to go right over the top of the Earth on Google Earth and straight to Japan. That’s them right in that area, 25 million people last I looked. I figured it was North Korea because on the map it says “North Korea”. Complications involve trade and a boarder with China so it’s not like they’re in Africa or South America. Canada? Come on, people. I’m thinking a world survey of any country wouldn’t know where Guatemala is. Knowledge and intelligence generally work together but can be confused by many. It’s dispiriting to know most of my country voted for… Read more »

Craig X
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Craig X

That is what happens when you program a population to believe in lies and celebrities….most people still believe the US went to the moon.

Greg K. Liebig Sr.
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Greg K. Liebig Sr.

THE GOSPEL MESSAGE OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IN KOREAN ! TOGETHEReulo mandeun mandeun seonglyeong-eulo modeun geos-eul bol su iss-eumyeo boiji anhneun yesuui bog-eum, geuliseudo, hananim, yahweui dogsaengja. hananim, uliui hananim abeoji, eotteon ingan-ui jonjaega jasin-ui joee myeolmang hal geos-ilago gikkeoihaji, salam-ui joee daehan daegaleul jibulhasil jigue geuui adeul yesuleul bonaessseubnida! yesuneun, abeojiwa inlyue daehan salang-e daehan salang, gikkeoi hananim abeoji kke inlyuleul jojeonghagi wihae haneul-e gyesin jib-ui hwalyeoeul tteonahagilo gyeoljeonghaessseubnida! yesuga cheonyeo (malia)ui tansaenghagilo gyeoljeonghaessseubnida, geuneun cheongchun-eulo chogi dangyeeseo seongjanghagilo gyeoljeonghaessseubnida. geuui salm-ui modeun yeong-yeog-eseo geuneun daleun modeun salam-eulo danji joeleul yuhoghajiman, geuleona geuneun SINhaji anh-assdadoeeossda! yesu, joe ttoneun… Read more »

Ozzy Guy
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Ozzy Guy

Ha ha…can’t locate America on a map?

Isabella Jones
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Isabella Jones

Russia is NOT “an Asian country”. A country is a complex concept involving the people, their history, language, origins and cultural precepts. Nothing about Russia is remotely like the countries we know as “Asia”, which are peopled by Oriental peoples. Russian people in the main are Occidental. [Note, it’s a big country, so while many do carry some Oriental genes, the majority are Occidental].
However, the map is absolutely correct in it’s geographical aspect – Russia is part of the Russo-Asian Land Mass.

Isabella Jones
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Isabella Jones

It does make sense for the Eternal War Rulers to keep the people stupid like this. One survey found that of those who could correctly find a country on a map, there were many less who wanted to bomb it. Making sure they have not one clue regarding where the people live, what they do, their culture, or where they are located keeps them unreal, like numbers on a page, or story book figurines. Then when they hear from their MSM that the leader of them is a wicked guy and America will go bomb them into democracy – they… Read more »

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Whose Money Stoked Religious Strife in Ukraine – and Who Tried to Steal It?

Was $25 million in American tax dollars allocated for a payoff to stir up religious turmoil and violence in Ukraine?

Jim Jatras

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Authored by James George Jatras via Strategic Culture:


Was $25 million in American tax dollars allocated for a payoff to stir up religious turmoil and violence in Ukraine? Did Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko (unsuccessfully) attempt to divert most of it into his own pocket?

Last month the worldwide Orthodox Christian communion was plunged into crisis by the decision of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I in Constantinople to recognize as legitimate schismatic pseudo-bishops anathematized by the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which is an autonomous part of the Russian Orthodox Church. In so doing not only has Patriarch Bartholomew besmirched the global witness of Orthodoxy’s two-millennia old Apostolic faith, he has set the stage for religious strife in Ukraine and fratricidal violence – which has already begun.

Starting in July, when few were paying attention, this analyst warned about the impending dispute and how it facilitated the anti-Christian moral agenda of certain marginal “Orthodox” voices like “Orthodoxy in Dialogue,” Fordham University’s “Orthodox Christian Studies Center,” and The Wheel. These “self-professed teachers presume to challenge the moral teachings of the faith” (in the words of Fr. John Parker) and “prowl around, wolves in sheep’s clothing, forming and shaping false ideas about the reality of our life in Christ.” Unsurprisingly such groups have embraced Constantinople’s neopapal self-aggrandizement and support for the Ukrainian schismatics.

No one – and certainly not this analyst – would accuse Patriarch Bartholomew, most Ukrainian politicians, or even the Ukrainian schismatics of sympathizing with advocacy of such anti-Orthodox values. And yet these advocates know they cannot advance their goals if the conciliar and traditional structure of Orthodoxy remains intact. Thus they welcome efforts by Constantinople to centralize power while throwing the Church into discord, especially the Russian Church, which is vilified in some Western circles precisely because it is a global beacon of traditional Christian moral witness.

This aspect points to another reason for Western governments to support Ukrainian autocephaly as a spiritual offensive against Russia and Orthodoxy. The post-Maidan leadership harp on the “European choice” the people of Ukraine supposedly made in 2014, but they soft-pedal the accompanying moral baggage the West demands, symbolized by “gay” marches organized over Christian objections in Orthodox cities like AthensBelgradeBucharestKievOdessaPodgoricaSofia, and Tbilisi. Even under the Trump administration, the US is in lockstep with our European Union friends in pressuring countries liberated from communism to adopt such nihilistic “democratic, European values.”

Perhaps even more important to its initiators, the row over Ukraine aims to break what they see as the “soft power” of the Russian Federation, of which the Orthodox Church is the spiritual heart and soul. As explained by Valeria Z. Nollan, professor emerita of Russian Studies at Rhodes College:

‘The real goal of the quest for autocephaly [i.e., complete self-governing status independent of the Moscow Patriarchate] of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is a de facto coup: a political coup already took place in 2014, poisoning the relations between western Ukraine and Russia, and thus another type of coup – a religious one – similarly seeks to undermine the canonical relationship between the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and Moscow.’

In furthering these twin objectives (morally, the degrading of Orthodox Christianity; politically, undermining the Russian state as Orthodoxy’s powerful traditional protector) it is increasingly clear that the United States government – and specifically the Department of State – has become a hands-on fomenter of conflict. After a short period of appropriately declaring that “any decision on autocephaly is an internal [Orthodox] church matter,” the Department within days reversed its position and issued a formal statement (in the name of Department spokesperson Heather Nauert, but clearly drafted by the European bureau) that skirted a direct call for autocephaly but gave the unmistakable impression of such backing. This is exactly how it was reported in the media, for example, “US backs Ukrainian Church bid for autocephaly.” Finally, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo weighed in personally with his own endorsement as did the US Reichskommissar for UkraineKurt Volker.

The Threat…

There soon became reason to believe that the State Department’s involvement was not limited to exhortations. As reported by this analyst in October, according to an unconfirmed report originating with the members of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (an autonomous New York-based jurisdiction of the Moscow Patriarchate), in July of this year State Department officials (possibly including Secretary Pompeo personally) warned the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America (also based in New York but part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate) that the US government was aware of the misappropriation of a large amount of money, about $10 million, from estimated $37 million raised from believers for the construction of the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church and National Shrine in New York. The State Department warning also reportedly noted that federal prosecutors have documentary evidence confirming the withdrawal of these funds abroad on the orders of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew. It was suggested that Secretary Pompeo would “close his eyes” to this theft in exchange for movement by the Patriarchate of Constantinople in favor of Ukrainian autocephaly, which helped set Patriarch Bartholomew on his current course.

[Further details on the St. Nicholas scandal are available here, but in summary: Only one place of worship of any faith was destroyed in the September 11, 2001, attack in New York and only one building not part of the World Trade Center complex was completely destroyed. That was St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, a small urban parish church established at the end of World War I and dedicated to St. Nicholas the Wonderworker, who is very popular with Greeks as the patron of sailors. In the aftermath of the 9/11 attack, and following a lengthy legal battle with the Port Authority, which opposed rebuilding the church, in 2011 the Greek Archdiocese launched an extensive campaign to raise funds for a brilliant innovative design by the renowned Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava based on traditional Byzantine forms. Wealthy donors and those of modest means alike enthusiastically contributed millions to the effort. Then – poof! In December 2017, suddenly all construction was halted for lack of funds and remains stalled to this day. Resumption would require having an estimated $2 million on hand. Despite the Archdiocese’s calling in a major accounting firm to conduct an audit, there’s been no clear answer to what happened to the money. Both the US Attorney and New York state authorities are investigating.]

This is where things get back to Ukraine. If the State Department wanted to find the right button to push to spur Patriarch Bartholomew to move on the question of autocephaly, the Greek Archdiocese in the US is it. Let’s keep in mind that in his home country, Turkey, Patriarch Bartholomew has virtually no local flock – only a few hundred mostly elderly Greeks left huddled in Istanbul’s Phanar district. (Sometimes the Patriarchate is referred to simply as “the Phanar,” much as “the Vatican” is shorthand for the Roman Catholic papacy.) Whatever funds the Patriarchate derives from other sources (the Greek government, the Roman Catholic Church, the World Council of Churches), the Phanar’s financial lifeline is the ethnic Greek community (including this analyst) in what is still quaintly called the “Diaspora” in places like America, Australia, and New Zealand. And of these, the biggest cash cow is the Greek-Americans.

That’s why, when Patriarch Bartholomew issued a call in 2016 for what was billed as an Orthodox “Eighth Ecumenical Council” (the first one since the year 787!), the funds largely came from America, to the tune of up to $8 million according to the same confidential source as will be noted below. Intended by some as a modernizing Orthodox “Vatican II,” the event was doomed to failure by a boycott organized by Moscow over what the latter saw as Patriarch Bartholomew’s adopting papal or even imperial prerogatives – now sadly coming to bear in Ukraine.

…and the Payoff

On top of the foregoing, it now appears that the State Department’s direct hand in this sordid business may not have consisted solely of wielding the “stick” of legal threat: there’s reason to believe there was a “carrot” too. It very recently came to the attention of this analyst, via an unsolicited, confidential source in the Greek Archdiocese in New York, that a payment of $25 million in US government money was made to Constantinople to encourage Patriarch Bartholomew to move forward on Ukraine.

The source for this confidential report was unaware of earlier media reports that the same figure – $25 million – was paid by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to the Phanar as an incentive for Patriarch Bartholomew to move forward on creating an independent Ukrainian church. Moreover, Poroshenko evidently tried to shortchange the payment:

‘Peter [Petro] Poroshenko — the president of Ukraine — was obligated to return $15 million US dollars to the Patriarch of Constantinople, which he had appropriated for himself.

‘As reported by Izvestia, this occurred after the story about Bartholomew’s bribe and a “vanishing” large sum designated for the creation of a Unified Local Orthodox Church in Ukraine surfaced in the mass media.

‘As reported, on the eve of Poroshenko’s visit in Istanbul, a few wealthy people of Ukraine “chipped in” in order to hasten the process of creating a Unified Local Orthodox Church. About $25 million was collected. They were supposed to go to the award ceremony for Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople for the issuing of a tomos of autocephaly. [A tomos is a small book containing a formal announcement.] However, in the words of people close to the backer, during the visit on April 9, Poroshenko handed over only $10 million.

‘As a result, having learned of the deal, Bartholomew cancelled the participation of the delegation of the Phanar – the residence of the Patriarch of Constantinople, in the celebration of the 1030th anniversary of the Baptism of Russia on July 27 in Kiev.

‘”Such a decision from Bartholomew’s side was nothing other than a strong ultimatum to Poroshenko to return the stolen money. Of course, in order to not lose his face in light of the stark revelations of the creation of the tomos of autocephaly for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, Peter Alexeevich [Poroshenko] had to just return those $15 million for the needs of Constantinople,” a trusted source explained to reporters.

‘For preliminary information, only after receiving the remaining sum, did Bartholomew finally give his consent to sending a delegation of the Phanar to Kiev … ‘

Now, it’s possible that the two identical figures of $25 million refer to two different pots of money (a cool $50 million!) but that seems unlikely. It’s more probable the reports refer to the same sum as viewed from the sending side (the State Department, the Greek Archdiocese) and the delivery side (Poroshenko, Constantinople).

Lending credibility to the confidential information from New York and pointing to the probability that it refers to the same payment that Poroshenko reportedly sought to raid for himself are the following observations:

  • When Poroshenko generously offered Patriarch Bartholomew $10 million, the latter was aware that the full amount was $25 million and demanded the $15 million Poroshenko had held back. How did the Patriarch know that, unless he was informed via New York of the full sum?
  • If the earlier-reported $25 million was really collected from “a few wealthy people of Ukraine” who “chipped in,” given the cutthroat nature of disputes among Ukrainian oligarchs would Poroshenko (an oligarch in his own right) have risked trying to shortchange the payment? Why has not even one such Ukrainian donor been identified?
  • Without going into all the details, the Phanar and the Greek Archdiocese have a long relationship with US administrations of both parties going back at least to the Truman administration, encompassing some decidedly unattractive episodes. In such a history, a mere bribe for a geopolitical shot against Moscow would hardly be a first instance or the worst.

As one of this analyst’s Greek-American connections puts it: “It’s easy to comprehend the Patriarchate bowing to the pressure of State Dept. blackmail… not overly savory, but understandable. However, it’s another thing altogether if Kiev truly “purchased” their autocephalous status from an all too willing Patriarchate … which would relegate the Patriarch to ‘salesman’ status and leave the faithful wondering what else might be offered to the highest bidder the next time it became convenient to hold a Patriarchal ‘fire sale’ at the Phanar?!”

To add insult to injury, you’d think Constantinople at least could pay back some of the $7-8 million wasted on the Crete 2016 debacle to restart the St. Nicholas project in New York. Evidently the Phanar has better things to spend it on, like the demonstrative environmentalism of “the Green Patriarch” and, together with Pope Francis, welcoming Muslim migrants to Europe through Greece. Of course maybe there’s no need to worry, as the Ukraine “sale” was consistent with Constantinople’s papal ambitions, an uncanonical claim to “universal” status, and misuse of incarnational language and adoption of a breathtakingly arrogant tone that would cause even the most ultramontane proponent of the Rome’s supremacy to blush.

Finally, it seems that, for the time being at least, Constantinople doesn’t intend to create an independent Ukrainian church but rather an autonomous church under its own authority. It’s unclear whether or not Poroshenko or the State Department, in such event, would believe they had gotten their money’s worth. Perhaps they would. After all, the issue here is less what is appropriate for Ukraine than what strikes at Russia and injures the worldwide Christian witness of the Orthodox Church. To that end, it doesn’t matter whether the new illegal body is Constantinopolitan or Kievan, just so long as it isn’t a “Moskal church” linked to Russia.

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The Duran – News in Review – Episode 152.

Alex Christoforou

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The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and International Affairs and Security Analyst via Moscow, Mark Sleboda discuss the possibility, and feasibility, of putting together an EU army, as French President Macron is now boasting about.

Will an EU Army replace, rival, or fold into NATO? How will the US respond to Europe’s military initiative, and how will Russia deal an EU army?

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“Insulting” – that’s how US President Donald Trump sharply reacted to the idea of a “real European army” proposed by French President Emmanuel Macron.

And it was how Macron rationalized the need for an independent military force for Europe that perhaps most irked the American leader.

Speaking on a tour of World War I battlefields in northern France last week, Macron said that Europe needed to defend itself from “China, Russia and even the United States of America”.

It was a pretty extraordinary choice of words by the French leader. To frame the US among an array of perceived foreign enemy powers was a devastating blow to the concept of a much-vaunted transatlantic alliance.

Since the Second World War, ending 1945, the concept of an American-European alliance has been the bedrock of a supposed inviolable, mutual defense pact. That nearly seven-decade alliance is now being questioned more than ever.

Macron’s call for a European army was further backed up by German Chancellor Angela Merkel who also pointedly said this week that Europe can no longer rely on the US for its defense.

Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has welcomed the proposal for Europe to form its own military organization, independent from Washington. No doubt, Moscow views such a development as augmenting a move towards a multipolar international order, which Russia and China, among others, have been advocating in opposition to American ambitions of unipolar dominance.

When Trump arrived in Paris last weekend along with dozens of other world leaders, including Putin, to commemorate the centennial anniversary marking the end of World War I, there was a notable frostiness between Macron and the American president. Only a few months ago, Macron and Trump had appeared the best of friends in what some observers referred to as a “bromance”.

During the Paris events, Macron sought to placate Trump by saying that the European army proposal would have a “complementary” role to the US-led NATO military alliance. However, their relationship further soured when Macron later delivered a speech in which he made a veiled rebuke of Trump’s “nationalist” politics.

Days later, on returning to Washington, Trump then fired off a fusillade of angry tweets attacking Macron in very personal terms over a range of issues, including “unfair” economic trade and France’s alleged ungrateful attitude towards the US liberation of Paris from Nazi Germany during the Second World War.

The rift between the US and Europe has been brewing even before Trump’s presidency. For years, Washington has been carping that the Europeans need to spend more on military defense, claiming that the US has been shouldering the burden for too long. Trump has taken the griping to a new, higher level. Recall that he has threatened to pull out of NATO because the Europeans were “free loading” on American “protection”.

The irony is that now the French and German leaders are talking about setting up their own military defenses, Trump has blown a fuse.

Evidently, the American contention is not about “burden sharing” of defense. If Washington was genuinely aggrieved about supposedly defending Europe at too much of its own expense, then Trump, one would think, would be only too glad to hear that the Europeans were at last making their own military arrangements, and taking the burden off Washington.

This gets to the heart of the matter about the real purpose of NATO and presence of tens of thousands of US troops stationed in bases across Europe since 1945. American military presence in Europe is not about “protecting” its supposed allies. It is, and always has been, about projecting American power over Europe. In reality, American troops and bases in Europe are more functioning as an occupying force, keeping the Europeans in line with Washington’s strategic objectives of hegemony over the continent.

Macron and Merkel’s vision of a European army is probably fanciful anyway, without any real prospect of materializing. How such a new defense arrangement would work independently from the 29-member NATO alliance led by the US seems unwieldy and impractical.

But the latest tensions between Washington and European leaders over military organization demonstrate the real nature of America’s relationship to Europe. It is about domination by Washington over Europe and has little to do with partnership and protection.

When Trump and previous US presidents have urged greater military spending by Europe the ulterior agenda is for Europeans to pay more to underpin American military presence, not for Europeans to find their own independent defense arrangement.

Tensions in the transatlantic axis seem to be coming to a head, heightened by Trump’s nationalistic “America First” policy. Rivalries are sharpening over trade, US sanctions on Iran, Trump’s threats against European energy plans with Russia, the Paris Climate Accord, and squabbling over NATO expenditures.

There is nothing progressive about Macron or Merkel’s call for a European army. It is more to do with France and Germany wanting to assert themselves as great powers and to shake off American tutelage out of frustration with Trump’s domineering petulance.

Only last week, Macron caused controversy when he praised French military general Philippe Pétain who collaborated with Nazi Germany as leader of Vichy France (1940-44). Macron wants a European army to satisfy his own nationalistic ambitions of revamping French global power. This week, he spent the night onboard a refurbished French aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, from which he gave a media interview saying that being “an ally of America meant not being a vassal”. Touché!

A progressive challenge from Europe to American power would not involve setting up a new army. Instead it would involve Europeans pushing for the disbandment of NATO as an obsolete organization and for the withdrawal of US-led forces which are dangerously amassing on Russia’s border.

Nonetheless, the one positive thing to emerge from the transatlantic spat over military defenses is that it illustrates more than ever how European protection is not the real purpose of Washington’s relationship to the continent. The purpose is one of using Europe as a platform for projecting America’s power, in particular against Russia.

The recent announcement by the Trump administration that it is willing to rip up yet another nuclear arms control treaty – the INF following the ABM in 2002 – clearly shows that Washington, ultimately, has recklessly scant concern for Europe’s security with regard to a possible future war with Russia.

For Washington, despite all the chivalrous rhetoric, Europe is not a partner nor even an ally. It is a vassal. Admittedly, thousands of American troops died while bravely fighting wars in Europe. But they are distinct from the US ruling class. At bottom, Europe is merely a battlefield for American military power, just as it was in two previous world wars. One hundred years after the end of World War I, the same callous calculus for the imperial planners in Washington is at play.

European ideas for independent defense is why Washington has reacted so furiously. It’s not willing to give up its European front.

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The New York Times reported that Facebook hired GOP PR firm, Defenders, to smear liberal detractors as Soros operatives. 

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Facebook executives Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg are battling backlash over an explosive investigation by the New York Times into Facebook’s mercenary damage control tactics in the wake of several major scandals.

Despite fresh calls from investors for Zuckerberg to step down in his dual role as CEO and chairman and appoint an independent director to oversee the board, the 34-year-old tech titan brushed off the suggestion during a Thursday call with journalists.

“A company with Facebook’s massive reach and influence requires robust oversight and that can only be achieved through an independent chair who is empowered to provide critical checks on company leadership,” said New York City comptroller, Scott Stringer.

Zuckerberg disagrees. “I don’t think that that specific proposal is the right way to go,” said the Facebook CEO when asked if he would consider stepping down, adding that other initiatives had been launched to “get more independence into our systems.”

The measures include creating an independent body to advise the company on decisions over whether controversial content should remain on the site.

Ultimately, he said Facebook is never going to eradicate mistakes. “We’re never going to get to the point where there are no errors,” he told reporters. “I’m trying to set up the company so that way we have our board, and we report on our financial results and do a call every quarter, but that also we have this independent oversight that is just focused on the community.” –Business Insider

Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, meanwhile, is claiming ignorance – telling CBS This Morning co-host Norah O’Donnell “we absolutely did not pay anyone to create fake news – that they have assured me was not happening.”

In their Wednesday exposé – the culmination of interviews with over 50 current and former company executives, lawmakers, government officials, lobbyists and congressional staff members,the New York Times reported that Facebook had hired GOP PR firm, Defenders, which smeared liberal detractors as Soros operatives – and worked with a sister company to create negative propaganda about competitors Google and Apple.

Mr. Kaplan prevailed on Ms. Sandberg to promote Kevin Martin, a former Federal Communications Commission chairman and fellow Bush administration veteran, to lead the company’s American lobbying efforts. Facebook also expanded its work with Definers.

On a conservative news site called the NTK Network, dozens of articles blasted Google and Apple for unsavory business practices. One story called Mr. Cook hypocritical for chiding Facebook over privacy, noting that Apple also collects reams of data from users. Another played down the impact of the Russians’ use of Facebook.

The rash of news coverage was no accident: NTK is an affiliate of Definers, sharing offices and staff with the public relations firm in Arlington, Va. Many NTK Network stories are written by staff members at Definers or America Rising, the company’s political opposition-research arm, to attack their clients’ enemies. –NYT

Meanwhile, Sandberg stressed that Facebook was undertaking new security measures, telling O’Donnell: “Our strategy was to shore up the security on Facebook and make major investments there,” and that the company had made significant investments in combatting fake news and foreign influence.

“It was not what I was doing nor was it the company’s strategy to deflect, to deny or to hire PR firms to do things. That’s not the strategy. And I was part of none of that. We’ve taken great steps, we’ve made huge investments. We’ve invested a ton in AI and technology and if you were following us before the election you saw those efforts pay off. We were able to take down lots of stuff over and over, over and over because we were now focused on this,” said Sandberg.

When asked if rank-and-file employees are confident in her, Sandberg replied: “Yes, I believe so.

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