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Eric Zuesse
Tulsi Gabbard, a U.S. Presidential candidate in the Democratic Party primaries, had gotten transformed by her experience as a soldier in Iraq. The American public seem to repudiate her for what that experience turned her into, which is a fighter now against lying news-media and politicians — against the people who inflicted this barbarism upon not only the residents of Iraq but especially upon her fellow U.S. soldiers, many of whom got destroyed and some even died from the resulting carnage there. It seems to have moved her deeply, and Americans don’t like what it moved her toward, which is a passionate opposition to what she calls “regime-change wars.” Iraq in 2003 was a landmark example of that because it so clearly was based only upon lies (such as this). She learned some lessons from the experience, but very few Americans want to learn them — not even after these same lessons were taught again in Libya, Syria, and elsewhere, after 2003.
According to the latest 8 polls of the support, by registered Democratic voters, for candidates in that Party’s Presidential nominating contest, Gabbard is supported by 1.5% of the polled registered Democratic voters nationwide.
Generally speaking, the U.S.-and-allied mainstream media do not share Rep. Gabbard’s attitude toward these wars. Yet there was at least one highly honored-in-The-West and thoroughly mainstream (London Times) journalist who has publicly acknowledged that the U.S. and its allies routinely invade and destroy nations on the basis, or ‘justification’, of lies that are stated by those Governments and then stenographically parroted by their propaganda-agents or press, the mainstream ‘news’-media: Hala Jaber. Here is what she told the interviewer — the retired progressive UK Member of Parliament, George Galloway — on Russia’s RT Television (headlined “George Galloway Interviews Hala Jaber & Nedka Babliku”, 31 May 2018), when asked why the mainstream media are losing audience-share to rising online “alternative-news” competitors: She said (2:45-): “Why are people now distrusting the mainstream narrative, if you want, … [it’s] because obviously, now, people are doubting and questioning what mainstream media are putting to us as fact, and people are questioning what governments are puting to people as facts.” Galloway asked if all of that had started with our invasion and occupation of Iraq, and she said, “Of course, we are in Iraq based on lies, … a pack of lies, and I believe, until today, we haven’t found the WMDs that we went — a country like Iraq that was totally disintegrated, broken down, the result after the war was not a better result, and people … then watched Libya happen, and disintegrate, Egypt, and now they are watching Syria, and people are beginning to say, wait a second, it’s been a buildup of lies, and why should we trust now the narrative that’s being presented about certain issues in Syria, … as being correct? … And people are beginning to doubt mainstream media and turning to alternative views.” For Galloway, that 13-minute interview was really about “the proprietors,” the owners, of the ‘news’-media, who want these lies to be spread, and who hire and fire people to spread them. (The interview in the second half, which was another 13 minutes, was with Babliku, and concerned Middle Eastern geopolitics — Israel, Syria, Iran, and Russia — not news-media.)
So, how do the public feel about these lies after lies, for decades on end? Do they want less of it?
Apparently not in the United States. One of the biggest public criticisms of Donald Trump is that he wants to end America’s occupation of Syria. Furthermore in the ‘opposite’ political Party, the Democrats, the only Presidential candidate who argues to end America’s succession of “regime-change wars” is Tulsi Gabbard, and only 1.5% of Democrats nationwide want her to become the nominee. So: whereas, perhaps, in some other countries, an imperialistic fascist aggressive regime might be starting to have problems of public acceptance, Americans in both of its Parties are overwhelmingly in favor of imperialistic fascism — that’s to say, international invasion and aggression against countries that never had invaded nor even threatened to invade the United States. Although Americans want their Government to stop arming and advising the Saudi regime to slaughter millions of people in Yemen with U.S. weapons, it’s not even really an issue in the Presidential primaries — the public just don’t care — they don’t feel any collective guilt about what their Government has done to Iraqis, and to Egyptians, and to Libyans, and to Syrians, and to Palestinians, etc.; they really just don’t care. To Americans, an imperialistic fascist American Government is not only entirely acceptable; they repudiate the only national politician who is speaking out against and trying to end this.
It seems that after the 2003 invasion-occupation of Iraq, the American public are all-out for bloodshed by the U.S. and its allies, against any country that their military-industrial-press-government complex (here: “MIPGC”) are out to destroy. They just want proxy-fighters — Saudis, Al Qaeda, Kurds, etc. — to do the fighting and dying, not U.S. troops. But now that, in Syria, Trump wants maybe to withdraw the last of those troops, all of the press (a major part of the MIPGC) is yelling bloody murder, to ‘protect the Kurds’ (etc.). Isn’t the ‘humanitarianism’ of the American people amazing? They’d rather pay trillions in taxes for these aggressions, than get their own health care paid for from their taxes. Of course, I am writing this from the perspective of one of the tiny percentage of Americans who consider that majority absolutely disgusting. Frankly, if Gabbard were to run as an independent, or even as a Republican, I would be no less likely to vote for her. But in a room of 200 people, there’d probably be only 2 who would agree with me, in order to make that 1.5% of the total. That’s the type of country this is. Not to be bloodthirsty against foreigners, and not to support serial liars, is to be a marginal person, in this country.
It’s said that Trump is causing people outside the U.S. to despise the United States. But Obama was at least as bad, and he is internationally respected. Foreigners are no better than Americans. This really isn’t a national thing. It’s a reflection of the common global culture, which is sick everywhere.
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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010, and of CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.
The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of this site. This site does not give financial, investment or medical advice.
The underlying assumption that the polls carry any real objective validity is suspect. I would present the more optimistic view that the plurality of anti-colonialist/neo-imperialists is greater than ~2%, though the media in general find a way to skew the process in favor of their stakeholders. How many followers of The Duran have actually been polled by any of the major pollsters?
That’s wishful thinking. 8 recent polls, and they all show this. All use well-established scientific sampling techniques. Readers of The Duran do not constitute any such sample.
I am 76 and I’ve not only never been polled, but I don’t know anyone who has been. Surely, in all that time, I’d have known at least one person who was polled?
And what about the polls that all said that Hillary Clinton was going to run away with the US presidency, right up until Trump won, Eric? Don’t you think they lost all credibility after that?
No, I don’t. Those polls were of the national registered voters, and she won the national vote. The polls predicted fairly accurately. Furthermore, I myself have worked (among other things) as a hired telephone-interviewer in such polls, and also done door-to-door interviews for the U.S. Census. Also, I have been included among the samples in phone-polls; and, of course, as an American, have been interviewed by U.S. Census surveys (which, unlike the polls, are not samples but instead include the entire population). So, you fundamentally misunderstand reality.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
. . . .Winston Churchill
Talk to the average American. Now remember that half of them are dumber than that.
. . . . George Carlin
Evolution 2.0 is waiting.
Gabbard is still a relative underfunded unknown . Gabbard does much better in open primaries, She’s doing very well in New Hampshire as she is 5th there ,6th in Iowa,She is trending up and should be consistently ahead of Klobachar by December. More importantly she is a very good candidate who once viewed unfiltered gains support
I wish that I shared your optimism.
Do you remember what ‘all the polls’ indicated in 2016, and how wrong they were? And, do you really trust the American mainstream media to use actual, demonstrably objective polls to accurately portray the depth of anti-establishment sentiment within the Democratic Party when their MO has been to consistently deceive the public in order to further their agenda to nominate a centrist to represent their party? To them, perception is still everything (even though it’s already failed them spectacularly once already). I’d argue that there’s a much larger contingent within the Democratic Party (than ‘the polls’ show) that wants an… Read more »
They weren’t “wrong”. See my response, above, to “Tim”.
someone HAS to Ask Tulsi what her own internal polls are showing, yes?? !! THERE IS NO WAY THESE POLLS YOU CITE IN THIS ARTICLE ARE NOT RIGGED. Your cited polls are all rigged.
Why not? It seems they rig everything else. No reason polls would be an exception.
On the other hand, never underestimate the abilities of polished propagandists to mold the minds of mice and men. Repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat……
Get yourselves a copy of Arthur Miller’s ‘The Crucible’. Better yet, get the film with Daniel Day Lewis. Tells you everything you need to know about the orgy of mindlessness going on these days.
What evidence do you have that they all are “rigged”? For example: Provide evidence that just ONE of the 8 was rigged. Unsupported allegations (such as by many of the commenters here) are rubbish.
And there is no mention of Afghanistan ? That was a worthy intervention ? Sheesh
A worthy intervention to secure the poppy fields.
UNLIKE with regard to Iraq, Libya, and Syria, there WAS strong evidence that Afghanistan’s Government (Talibans) were supporting Al Qaeda (and that Al Qaeda had perpetrated attacks against America). So: Afghanistan belongs in a different category.
I have to confess I have been puzzled by Tulsi Gabbard’s inability to move up in the polls. I follow a fairly large number of, of lets call them ‘ progressive websites’ and many have a positive view of her. She may not be their first choice but she garners a lot of positive comment (although she seems to be a fairly conservative individual). Now either it’s the same 200,000 (quote your number) people, on all the different websites rooting for her, which is possible, or there is something bubbling under the surface which is yet to be registered by… Read more »
She is NOT “a fairly conservative individual,” though before she went to war in Iraq she was. She is possibly the most progressive person in the entire Democratic Party field. I say “possibly,” because at least until 2018, she was still in the process of moving farther toward the progressive pole. I have followed for years her voting-record in the U.S. House, and after 2017, it seems to be increasingly opposed to the DNC, the Democratic National Committee. She might win the Presidency in 2020 on a Green Party ticket. If that happens, it will be the biggest earthquake in… Read more »
I agree with all those that suspect that all mainstream US polls have ceased to have any credibility whatsoever, and have become a simple straightforward propaganda tool. I strongly suspect that these polls are a reflection of what the powers that be want the American people to be thinking, rather than what the American people are actually thinking.
I also have strong doubts as to what Tulsi Gabbard is actually about, as opposed to her publicly stated positions, but that’s another matter.
No, Eric, the common global culture isn’t sick everywhere, just in the “West”.
Last year a FB “friend” unfriended me because I insisted that the American citizenry supported the negative policies of war and rule by oligarchy. I also said that people “believed” the propaganda organs because they wanted to believe the lies they spewed. I tried to explain to him that myth always trumps fact among the general populace even if they are trained, as I was, to think critically/logically. It makes sense to “believe” the lies. If you go into coastal upper-middle class social or professional milieu and start talking like what the New York Times or NPR say are lies… Read more »
The Democrats and the American mainstream media are actively engaged in rigging their own Democratic Party nomination process, just like 4 years ago. One of the ways they have to be doing this is by ‘cherry picking’ polls which agree with the DNC’s agenda, and ignoring the ones that contradict it. This is a carry over from how wrong the Dems and MSM got it in 2016 when they were using the media to amplify this process which was created in order to make their centrist candidate look unbeatable.
I wasn’t linking to “cherry picked” polls but to all of the latest 8 polls. It seems that at least the vast majority of the commenters here are willfully blind to the unpleasant realities.
The Democrats are the War Party and always have been. Democrats depend on the Military Industrial Complex for lavish campaign contributions in return for their spineless enabling of endless wars. How much does one suppose Tulsi has gotten from the MIC? How much did Robert Kennedy get in 1968? Or Eugene McCarthy the same election?
How about Duran conducts a poll on the candidates?