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Putin: No Deal, Talks, Truce with Illegitimate Zelensky; Zelensky Meltdown; Huge Strike Rocks Kiev

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penrose
penrose
December 20, 2024

You have to negotiate with a legitimate government. Otherwise you might as well pull a random Ukrainian off the street and make a deal with them.

john plum
Reply to  penrose
December 20, 2024

Or perhaps pull Boris JOhnson off a street in Astana and negotiate with him.

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penrose
penrose
Reply to  john plum
December 21, 2024

When did he escape from the asylum?

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
December 20, 2024

I don’t see Mr Putin’s statement as in any way unreasonable. He merely said that there must be duly constituted Ukrainian authorities before Russia can negotiate with them. One can’t negotiate with thin air, or with random individuals who claim to have authority.

Many times in the past, Russia has solemnly negoatiated and signed agreements with various governments that were properly authorised and legitimate – only for those governments to rat on the agreements.

To negotiate with people who have no authority and no official standing would be to invite the repudiation of any resulting treaties amid scornful laughter.

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Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
December 20, 2024

I would think that Mr Putin’s conditions tend to be minimalist. Whenever they are rejected, the price generally goes up.

Another widespread foolish misconception in the West is that another Russian President would be softer and easier to bully than Mr Putin. I believe the opposite to be the case; Mr Putin is absolutely the best the West can hope for.

john plum
December 20, 2024

Putin’s statement is clear to me: They can only negotiate with a legitimate body and representative. Zelensky is not he. Upon that legal requirement, he has no pre-conditions for negotiation.

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john plum
December 20, 2024

IMagine if Zelensky did go for election, and pull off a win, then turn up for negotation…how pleasant would that be?!

penrose
penrose
Reply to  john plum
December 21, 2024

I think he would need some serious help from the American Election Thieves to do that.

john plum
December 20, 2024

Faulty logic, ref ceasfire benefits: Russia is already a bigger coutry than Ukraine. It’s not going to gain that advatage under a ceasefire! Russia isn’t stumbling, so cannot pick it istelf up from a fall. Ukraine is stumbling, could benefit when resuming hostilities from a ceasfire (with I.E. West’s support). If you mean now to seek negotiations in the near future, then do so. If not, then don’t ask for a ceasefire now, except over Christmas for a couple of days. IN any case, Zelesnky et al., often say these days, as if they recognise realities on the battlefield DO… Read more »

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Sunnbike
Sunnbike
December 20, 2024

The west is never interested in the views of natives. They are merely there to obey. That is the history of the last 500 years of colonialism..

David 1260
David 1260
Reply to  Sunnbike
December 23, 2024

Sunbike is on to something Alexander missed. The only way the West can agree to Ukrainian neutrality is to give up on their dreams of plundered Russian resources. Because at least the Europeans are dependent on grabbing those resources to capitalize their debt, of course they can’t hear the Russians. Too devastating to give up the dream—or is it lust…

john plum
December 21, 2024

Correction: No, one is NOT entitled to disagree with a Russian official statement of witness, unless themsleves reporting a witness statement. Only witnesses have title.

You might suspect the Russians speak a lie, but I AM entitled to disagree, based upon what I have heard so far (as a character witness). I would argue that suspicion is unfounded and mere ‘wishful thinking’ in having taken sides for some dubious reason. Come back pnly when you have a reliable witness.

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john plum
December 21, 2024

Not ‘IS pictures’ , but ‘ARE pictures’…. come on man, correct yourself barrister of the Bar! This happens far too often. worse than Lazy – careless, weak; Know at least what you are about to say two words ahead.. Combatants, and the unsure wont take you seriously nor should they. But I KNOW, from long and careful listening you have ability to gain and share valuable insights. DOnt let down us downtrodden in the West when speaking for us. Strengthen your mind. P>S. I do realise you are to speaking off the cuff, and relaying from breif notes based upon… Read more »

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john plum
December 21, 2024

‘There are reports that senior SBU officials have been killed’; All such reports which lack a source are merely parroted gossip. And that’s how I always disregard them. Its not even interesting. Of course some MAY have been. May not have been. What does the statement convey? Certainly not information, or a novel idea – or even a lesson in how to think. It must be wishful thinking. Or someone ommitted the original source, and it has since been lost in the fog of parrot speech. Its a waste of parrot breath. More; it detracts from the impact of any… Read more »

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john plum
December 21, 2024

40′ in: Putins demand is a challenging demand to Zelesnky (ref ‘impossible’ demand).

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Alvin D Hofer, Ph.D.
December 21, 2024

I agree with Pres Putin, that he has set down no pre-condtions. The conditions he refers to are not his, but rather they are conditions set down by reason and by any legitimate reading of international law. A sovereign government, that of the the Russian Federation or any other, cannot negotiate with illegitimate persons, persons who have seized power or continued to hold power by illegitimate means. To do so would be to assert that there is no such thing as legitimate power or even international law itself. Were that the case, then negotiations and agreements are meaningless. They have… Read more »

Trump says the military knows where the drones are coming from! (My predictions: Trump, loose nukes so nuclear 9/11, or a financial hack so cyber pandemic. Cowboys/Neocons or Yankees/Globalists.)

Putin was asked ‘Could you give political asylum to Zelensky?’; said he would.