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Prigozhin Uprise Collapses, Putin in Control, Prigozhin Agrees to Exile in Belarus, Wagner Under MoD

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Grzegorz Ochman
June 25, 2023

I agree with Alexander phrasing it that it was the most optimal possible end of this situation but I do not agree with Alex’s point that it was a win for Putin. I don’t think its goal was a change of government or some revolt because it had 0% chance of success and they had to know it. It was just a PR stunt to weaken Russia and especially Putin’s position in Russia. West knew about 2 weeks before hehe, it’s funny to not know something you are responsible for. I am like 99% sure it was organized by the… Read more »

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June 26, 2023

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Leif Sachs
Leif Sachs
June 26, 2023

This is one of those rare occasions that I have to, respectfully, disagree with the narrative given by The Duran, Brian Berletic, John Helmer, et al.

The way the events unfolded were so stark raving unlikely and yet, at the same time, so convenient for Putin. In the end Putin got everything he wanted, and a grand spectacle to boot. If the rebellion were real, amnesty would not have been so hastly granted. The whole thing smells so fishy, it has to be a psy-op. One that is somewhat comparable to J6 in the US.

Leif Sachs
Leif Sachs
Reply to  Leif Sachs
June 26, 2023

The irony is that those who (rightly) defend Putin against the false accusations from the Collective West that he is “capable of just about anything, simply because he is by nature a madman” are now themselves doing exactly the same thing with Prigozhin.

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charles smith
charles smith
Reply to  Leif Sachs
June 26, 2023

I have been thinking the same way. There is another possibility to add. People in power, in Russia, got so fed-up with Pirgozhin that they set a trap for him. Powerful insiders saw the probability of the beneficial effects of a failed Pirgozhin coup attempt as a way to show the Russian Government’s strength, get the west to again back a loosing strategy, undermine western media’s credibility and get rid of a pest, so they fed Pirgozhin false info, promised support which would never come, motivated him in several ways to have him make his foolish moves, which he did.

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charles smith
charles smith
Reply to  charles smith
June 26, 2023

Again, it is also a slight bit possible that Pirgozhin is in on all of it. He is no longer able or desirous of continuing so he is taking his well compensated exit under a cloud (taking one for the team) and is now off to a luxurious retirement.

john plum
Reply to  charles smith
June 27, 2023

Possibilities; not slight, perfectly possible in imagination, but I get you point. Perfect in that it needs nothing else, nothing else could help it. This ‘slight’ possibility one comes under the ‘let’s imagine every one is in on it’. I.e there is only one side. But, I say there are two sides; good and evil. Prigozhin is a a lost soul, perfectly insane (selfish, unpatriotic, has no allegiance to any culture or people – set up as a globalist pawn, with giant-industrial food machinery). Or else, if Progozhin wanted to leave, then why not simply withdraw from any ownership? In… Read more »

john plum
Reply to  charles smith
June 27, 2023

Possible, yes. Likely no. Fact, I tell you no: That is not how things work – by psy-ops and such contrivances. Straightforward works alone,Its called honesty, and that comes with integrity – yes, in all good things. Specifically Russian officials need not set ridiculous idea to trap Prigoizhin, they simply called for Wagner forces to sign a contract with the MOD. And here is another possibility if we follow the one you mention as a trap; if they suspected Proigozhin would fall for such a lure, then they must already suspect he was a traitor, with some evidence. Otherwise ,… Read more »

Jdog
Jdog
June 26, 2023

The Chinese have a very old saying about needing to know yourself, and needing to know your enemy. The problem with America, is the American people do not know their enemy. Their enemy is the MICC. The MICC is the Military Industrial Congressional Complex. It is not just Raytheon and General Atomics, it is your local Congressman that you put in power and is now working against your interests and selling you into slavery. The Military Establishment and the Congress are in fact one organization working to undermine and enslave America under their rule.

john plum
Reply to  Jdog
June 27, 2023

And who leads the MICC, if not people who come and go by appointment as MICC? DO they )MICC) not have allies , as in giant agri-business, media, distribution networks, supermarkets and other Gobal enterprises? WHo is the enemy that leads the lot? Or,
Is just a rotten culture of greed in business and monopoly in trade for profit’s sake? I myself wouldn’t say so, that would be much easier to handle.

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Graham Reinders
Graham Reinders
June 26, 2023

Hi Alexander, — Following on my previous F16 comment. — BARD:- The US Air Force has a total of 441 F-16 simulators located at 27 different bases around the world. These simulators are used to train pilots on the F-16 fighter jet, and they provide a realistic and safe environment for pilots to practice their skills If they sent one Ukrainian fighter pilot to each place which has a simulator and then gave Ukraine 441 F16’s they could have an effective air force in 30-60 days. With that number of simulators out there, they should easily get one F16 donation… Read more »

john plum
June 27, 2023

Bravo Alexander! A speedy and fairly conclusive report at this early stage of the attempted coup affair. I agree with your assessment regarding indication of excellent Russian strength in its various aspects, the miscalculation of Prigozhin and, the indications that Prigozhin had outside influence in taking the steps he has. What remains, is what influenced his demonstrated dishonourable arrogance (even as a supposed Patriot in time of urgency) and why he took on influences as a traitor. I would point out his likely dealings with manufacturers of giant industrial catering equipment which cannot be bought or won through loans and… Read more »

Prigozhin off to Belarus. NYT, Biden had mutiny intel. MSM coup mania. Elensky, no elections. U/1

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