Alex Christoforou
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Counteroffensive exaggerated. Macron, Russia is fragile. Prigozhin ‘coup’ cover story. U/1
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Prigozhin’s Siege Ends – Postmortem Analysis
Prigozhin has announced the end of his siege and that Wagner is leaving. 🇷🇺 🏴☠️ Prigozhin says it’s over: “They were going to dismantle PMC Wagner. We came out on 23 June to the March of Justice. In a day, we walked to nearly 200km away from Moscow.
FROM PUGACHEV TO LEBED – THE MUZHIK REBELLION FIZZLES OUT WITHOUT BLOODSHED, PRIGOZHIN TO EXILE
By John Helmer, Moscow @bears_with Without the public support of any political figure in Russia, military or police unit, regional g
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Its all illogic. Things don’t come out of the blue. What happened was not as it appeared. They did a hell of a job on this theatre.
Wagner could never of overthrown Russia or even taken out Shoigu. Why do I even have to say that. There needs to be many other pieces in place for this type of thing to even seem logical. NONE of those things happened or were in motion.
And on the same day from Vanessa Beeley: In its continuous response to the terrorist escalation in the north, #Russian warplanes and #SyrianArabArmy artillery targeted terrorist positions in Al-Ghab Plain, southwestern Idlib countryside and northeastern Lattakia countryside Russian Air Forces carried out several airstrikes targeting #HTS sites in Bzabor & Jisr Al-Shughour in Idlib countryside and Kabeneh hills in Lattakia countryside in response to the latter HTS shelling that targeted the vicinity of Qurdaha and Slunfeh cities SAA artillery didn’t stop targeting terrorists positions since yesterday, in Sfuhen, Zyara, Fatira Zaizoun, Surmaneyya and other sites in Al-Ghab Plain and Zawya… Read more »
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I sympathise with you. Not all the facts are out, and more may come IF Russia does snatch Prigozhin for criminal prosecution. I think they have not done so yet, in order to immediately remove him from his men and get them to stand down, and not before the case is very strong indeed. I expect that the Intelligence services are saying that, proof of conspiracy to overthrow the government and with outside support, remains circumstantial at this time. See my post below for some of that. You are correct there was very little chance of a coup of any… Read more »
very wrong
Alex, your evalioations are spledid!
This is ridiculous. Xi Jinping is no more a dictator than Emperor Joe Biden is a dictator.
Much less , I would say. Biden is president of a ‘Western Democracy’, which dictates for on behalf of the faceless Global elite (those without allegiance to any nation or culture)
In this game of cat and mouse, shadows and light, where Putin is, in the western media, at one minute ‘deposed’, the next minute ‘resolute’ and the next minute ‘weak’, the one thing that seemed to totally take the USA by surprise were the videos broadcast all over western social media today of Russian youth celebrating and singing and screaming with adulation for the singer, Shaman, who belts out the No.1. most popular song in Russia, “Ya Russkiy” (I am Russian). A song that could have come straight from the collective farms and the Red Army of old. A defiant,… Read more »
Very good Anna, quite right.
I believe it was Seraphim Hanisch who posted musical videos here, very early on in the conflict, which showed Russian youth firmly committed to Russia and “Uncle Vladimir”
Excellent look at this spectacle. Not all the facts are in. There remain a number of possibilities, and so I venture to offer this look at the man Prigozhin, ahead of time… Anyone in the club for industrial scale business profits gives nothing to national, let alone local economy; they bleed it , and kill culture, kill local initiatives and independence. They cannot be Patriotic or loyal to their nation state, only as an adornment while it is suitable, as lip service. Much the same as an economic migrant that leaves their family, people and farms. Bonds are n broken… Read more »
ref: U.S.A. intelligence foreknowledge: I do recall Budanov suggesting ‘something big will happen end of June’ and its not what you think it will be. I seem to recall he even said in the last week of June (but perhaps not). At the time I discounted a false flag, but suspected some sort of stage revolution, although I could not imagine it in ordinary colour revolution manner, involving NGOs and staged protests.
I’ll keep an eye out myself for that Budanov revelation, and report back should I find it soon.
Any extra ammo that Prigozhin could expect to receive for the limited Bakhmut battle he complained about would be nowhere near enough ammo to defeat the Russian Army protecting Moscow and enable Prigozhin to seize power.
Before today’s audio presentation by Prigozhin claimed that accelerating and intensifying the Russian efforts against Ukraine were part of his motivation, Col Douglas Macgregor put out a video saying that this is what Prigozhin wanted to accomplish and that intensifying Russian war efforts had many adherents in Russia. youtube.com/watch?v=VugfuaG_0nc. Please note that this went on youtube yesterday
There is another possibility to add. People in power, in Russia, got so fed-up with Pirgozhin that they set a trap for him. Powerful insiders saw the probability of the beneficial effects of a failed Pirgozhin coup attempt as a way to show the Russian Government’s strength, get the west to again back a loosing strategy, undermine western media’s credibility and get rid of a pest, so they fed Pirgozhin false info, promised support which would never come, motivated him in several ways to have him make his foolish moves, which he did.
This whole Prigozhin affair smacks of a clever deception pulled off by Prigozhin himself and the Russian government, and everybody else involved. What if western secret services approached Prigozhin after he increasingly looked like he was becoming more and more unhinged, and tried to use him to pull off a coup against Putin, something they so desperately wanted for decades. What if Prigozhin played along with this plot and had the full backing off the Russian authorities. What speaks to this crazy outlandish scenario? ✘ Pre warnings about such, or similar scenario in the western narrative. ✘ Western secret service… Read more »
Sorry, it’s me or that Lebed’s photo is actually of Gerasimov?