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CONFIRMED: Divers find dead sailors in USS John McCain shipwreck

Ten missing sailors are now thought to have perished

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Divers have been investigating the damaged USS John McCain which sustained heavy damage when it crashed into an oil tanker near Singapore.

Ten sailors are officially ‘missing’ from the incident and are now feared to be dead. Rescue divers have confirmed they have found dead bodies in the part of the ship near the impact zone as well as in the waters nearby.

According to US Admiral Scott Swift,

“The divers were able to locate some remains in those sealed compartments during the search today. Additionally, the Malaysian navy has reported that they have located potential remains”.

The deaths are thought to be either a result of the collision itself or drowning when part of the vessel flooded due to the large hole in the side of the ship.

This is the third US ship to be involved in a major collision in Asian waters in  three months. On 17 June the USS Fitzgerald destroyer collided with a container ship from Philippines off the coast of Japan, an incident which killed seven men, while in May of this year the USS Lake Champlain crashed into a South Korean fishing boat.

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Hope they don’t have a go at the tanker captain.

Mike from Ramsbottom
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Now, I have a vivid imagination. The scenario I envisage is based on the analysis of this collision which I have read, but didn’t save the link to. The analysis was that as the damage to the warship was at the stern from the waterline up, and as the damage to the tanker is reported to be twenty feet above the waterline, then it seems that the warship steamed across the tanker’s bow. In my imagination I hear the tanker’s pilot blowing his horn long and loud whilst the destroyer steamed serenely on…

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10 Missing, 5 Injured After USS John S. McCain Collides With Oil Tanker Near Straits Of Malacca
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-20/uss-john-mccain-collides-merchant-ship-near-straits-malacca

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Top Navy admiral orders fleetwide probe after BIW-built destroyer’s collision at sea… https://bangordailynews.com/2017/08/21/news/nation/biw-built-uss-john-mccain-arrives-in-singapore-after-collision-10-sailors-missing/?ref=moreInstate

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Tim Webb
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That hole can only have been caused by the underwater bow protrusion that virtually every ship is fitted with, to enable it to slice through the water more efficiently. Must have been terrifying to have been sleeping down below on the US ship, when that thing came through the wall. And the doors to the compartment would have been immediately slammed shut by those outside, to prevent the boat from sinking; never mind the screams of pain coming from the wounded. Very traumatic for those who were obliged to do their duty in that regard. Manslaughter charges need to be… Read more »

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Whatever anybody may think, the sailors signed up to serve there nation, not realising that their leaders would be using them as oil/gas and bankers security agents. RIP. Does anybody find it strange, what the Aegis destroyer was doing in the area? Doesn’t China run it’s Myanmar-China fuel pipeline from the area? Who wants that shut down? Then you have Trump, wanting to keep his Forces in Afghanistan. Now is that for the poppy harvest and the benefits that come from the market? Bearing in mind that the only success that NATO has had in Afghanistan is the poppy harvest?… Read more »

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That’s a very credible analysis, AM, and since we read stories of heroin being shipped back to the US in the body bags of dead soldiers, then they are, as it were, going to need a lot more dead soldiers….

AM Hants
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AM Hants

I was just rambling away, but, asking a lot of questions, as I have no idea what is what. With regards shipping heroin back, sadly you can believe it. Why do we elect our leaders and if we knew exactly what they were capable of, just to line their pockets, or keep their dirty habits secret, would we still vote for them?

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The bodies of dead soldiers have been used to ship illegal drugs since at LEAST the Vietnam years.

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You are wrong …they died because they are in some one elses territory illegally…….Bloody war criminals …America Terrorist No.1

AM Hants
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Were they in International Water? At the end of the day, who gave orders to the young kids on board the ship? So why are they not held to account, meaning the leaders? At the end of the day families are grieving for their loved ones and as stated, I am not in the mood to pick on some young kids, that signed up to serve their nation. When the leaders that we elect use them as cannon fodder and are never held to account.

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AM. But why should we offer sympathy to the US sailors? After two decades of clearly illegitimate warmongering, illegal invasions and mass murder of millions of innocents – then anyone who has chosen to ‘serve’ in that particular organisation is nothing more than a hired killer. The US Military is not about protecting the USA.

They are not much better or more worthy of our respect than Al-Nusra/ISIS mercenaries. Those young men are economically disadvantaged, poorly educated and propagandised too. But most people are glad to see THEM die.

AM Hants
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I am happy to rejoice at ISIS being taken out, because they are not open about who they are. Those that sign up to serve their nations, and prepared to give their lives to their nations, I respect. However, I do not respect those that treat them as Cannon Fodder. The same as those that end up as mercenaries. I have no respect for them, as they are doing it for personal gain, whatever nation. Ukraine, I happily enjoy and celebrate when the Nazis are taken out, but, I feel compassion when it is the conscripts, especially if they are… Read more »

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They were in an International Seaway, but that close to land, they were probably in Malaysia’s territorial waters.

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Just say that maybe North Korea or another State could hack the Bridge of any Merchant Vessel navigation system & ram any Naval Vessel & US was being taught a public lesson ? This lesson has 3 effects: 1. US Naval Power is a Joke & the Emperor has No Clothes ! This is a repeat from the 60 missile attack on an undefended air-base in Syria ………(59)……… 2. In any conflict ALL Merchant Vessels are strategic tools (impossible to make their Nav Systems unhackable in the next 20 years) 3. With the US Dollar backed in truth ONLY by… Read more »

Mike from Ramsbottom
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Yessss.. But why should ‘hacking the bridge’ or disrupting the electronics have stopped them from looking where they’re going? This was a US Navy ship.. No expenses spared. And they were sailing through very, very busy sea lanes. And (never start a sentence with ‘and’ I was taught) – a naval destroyer is a lot faster than the oil tankers, container ships and fishing vessels which ply these waters for a living. Would it not be sensible to post four lookouts – people with eyes and voices – prow, stern and amidships both sides, each lookout post to be equipped… Read more »

Le Ruscino
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But as any Sailor will tell you – A ship is not a car & they all turn & slow down at a snail’s pace – a fast ship does 40 Nautical Miles an hour & most less, a lot less. Stopping & turning can takes many hundreds of metres. Setting a collision course at 12 Knots can with a modicum of deviousness catch any of these warships!

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It’s likely that the partly-loaded tanker would only be able to manage around 15 knots max – after a few hours at full power. The McCain would be capable of, at least, twice that speed and be able to vary its speed very quickly – but, more importantly, it could turn 90 degrees inside 10 seconds. Ten seconds from impact, even at full speed, the tanker (operated by the aptly-named Stealth Maritime Services) was only one ship’s length away. The relative speed/manoeuvrability of the two is roughly equal to a bear trying to chase down a hare – not very… Read more »

Screwloose
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Screwloose

According to the US Navy, after deliberately aggravating the Chinese with yet another ‘Freedom of Navigation’ pass by their new base, the McCain was hit while the ship was “transiting to a routine port visit in Singapore.”

AM Hants
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Wasn’t the other accident a bit suspicious as well? Funny, they both got hit in the same place? I wonder how their communications system fared?

Screwloose
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The Fitzgerald was very different, in that it was hit on the starboard side – the presumption is then that it was the US vessel at fault, even though the freighter was manoeuvring erratically, possibly due to its autopilot trying to unwind a previous confliction-avoidance course reversal. (The investigation is still under way, but it’s significant that the destroyer’s commanders have been disciplined.) As below; the question must still remain as to how a slow civilian ship could ever manage to ram anything as fast-reacting as a destroyer – the “Greyhounds of the Sea” – if it was under competent… Read more »

AM Hants
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AM Hants

So the primary possibility is arrogance on the High Seas and aggressive manouvres. Not from the old war horses of the seas, but, the whipper snapper new comers?

Screwloose
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Screwloose

Too early to say; but, even though it was the tanker’s responsibility to give way in that situation, the ability to manoeuvre evasively to easily avoid a collision was available to the McCain – and yet apparently unused?

Whether a hubristic ‘It’s my right-of-way – I’m holding my course – he’ll have to yield’ came into it will be one thing the inquiry may seek to discover..?

AM Hants
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AM Hants

If it is arrogance and ignorance that caused it, how, will they spin that to the families and loved ones, of the kids lost their lives?

Screwloose
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Screwloose

Fortunately, all militaries have hundreds of years of experience in concocting obfuscating deathagrams.

It’s a sad fact that a high percentage of service losses are immoral, utterly pointless and completely avoidable – which does not minimize their relatives grief, or the courage of those lost.

AM Hants
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AM Hants

So true and good comment.

charlie
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charlie

Nevermind maybe they will find the Bin Laden Fake dummy down there…..Good to see the enemy losing its troops…LOL

Andrew Earl
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looks a bit flimsy for a warship!

ColinNZ
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It would appear that in addition to the usefulness of Russia performing combat testing of her Aerospace forces and associated missiles and equipment, with 2 US MQ-1 predator drones crashing near Syrian borders and 3 US Navy vessels (including missile-destroyers) colliding in the Asia-pacific I am starting to suspect that Russian electronic warfare capabilities have also been dusted off for testing.

cortisol
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cortisol

Rest in peaces, like countless of war criminal comrades in the years to come. Who in their right mind would board a ship called “John McCain” anyway.

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The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and Editor-in-Chief Alexander Mercouris examine how US and EU sanctions have continued to provide a huge boost to Russia’s economy. Russia’s food sovereignty has practically been achieved, as the Russian central bank continues to buy gold and lower its exposure to western financial markets.

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Outside pressure in the form of sanctions has become an incentive to resolve various issues of Russia’s economy, Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev stated in an interview with the Izvestiya daily.

He noted that through introducing sanctions against Russia, “the West aims to destabilize Russia’s economy and to create social and political tensions in society.”

“But during the difficult times, Russians have always stuck together and mobilized their resources in order to ensure the country’s sovereignty. This is what is happening now – the outside pressure has become an incentive to resolve many problems in Russia’s economy,” he said.

“Before the sanctions, it seemed that we would never be able to feed ourselves and that we are doomed to be dependent on Western import. However, right now, Russia’s food sovereignty in crucial sectors has practically been achieved, and in some areas, Russia has become the leading exporter,” Patrushev noted.

Those who apply the sanctions “can see that they (the sanctions – TASS) are ineffective and often achieve the opposite goal,” the Russian security chief concluded.

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US Neocon Foreign Policy and the War Waged Against Serbia

The Serbian assault began first by a ‘financial war’; by sanctions and finished off by an aggressive unprovoked incessant NATO bombing campaign.

Richard Galustian

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The ‘witch-hunt’ against President Trump over Russian collusion has officially ended, following the submission of the Mueller Report, enabling us to now focus on the real problems of America that effects the whole world.

In the hope of a waining of the Russophobia in America, let’s look at the US’s recent war history by starting with the 20th anniversary this month of the NATO war on Serbia in 1999 which amounted to almost 100 days of bombing of historic cities and infrastructure.

Firstly, these problems are, in the main caused by the Neocons, or Deep State, whatever you wish to call them, and the continuing promotion, by the US Military-Security Industrial Complex, of wars and regime change and secondly, Trump’s unreserved support for Israel, regardless of war crimes they may continue to commit against the Palestinians.

Incredibly after that one sided unjust and illegal war that NATO executed, NATO has the audacity to invite Serbia to join it! Something that will never happen. What do they smoke in DC, in the Pentagon and Brussels based NATO?

To compound these overall problems, the US Military and Israeli Defence Forces collaborate on these US regime change policies on all continents evidenced most recently by the arrival of crack Israeli troops last month in Brazil, prepared to support an attack potentially by Brazil and Columbia on Venezuela.

As, has now come to be expected, America pursues its Venezuelan regime change with full main stream media (MSM) cooperation, using well proven sophisticated propaganda techniques along with a variety of pretexts.

From Serbia to Iraq to Libya, where does it end? Observe that Trump is now seeking a ‘NATO alliance’ offering NATO status, to President Bolsonaro of Brazil to back the invasion of Venezuela.

So it is important to remember, as an example, that after a long war of economic and financial destabilization ended with the bombing of Serbia.

Serbia was previously a part of Yugoslavia, a country which had successfully evolved after 1945 to solve the old rivalries of the 19th and early 20th Century Balkan ethnic animosities which was, prior to the advent of power of President Tito, its past history.

The United Nations, instead of supporting, in effect, so called ‘humanitarian wars’ and ‘regime change wars’ by the US, using NATO, helped and relentlessly driven home by MSM outlets like CNN and FOX NEWS into people’s heads, must finally take a stand.

So too, Yugoslavia, once the envy of many in the world, given its then ‘non-aligned’ status under President Tito, was destroyed and broken up; ‘Balkanized’ in the early 1990s.

The Serbian assault began first by a ‘financial war’; by sanctions and finished off by an aggressive unprovoked incessant NATO bombing campaign. That’s what we can expect in Venezuela next.

This ‘Balkanization’ strategy similarly applies to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria et al. It serves US Neocon interests to dismember States in the world and create smaller more ‘manageable’ countries.

‘Regime change’ runs against the intent, the very words contained in the US Constitution. No one in MSM ever reminds us of that fact. Nevertheless America’s ambition to overthrow other States continues, which they arrogantly now make no secret of. The next States will probably be Nicaragua then Iran to name but two.

A very noteworthy most recent outrageous unilateral declaration was made by President Trump, not yet formally agreed by US institutions, ‘giving’ something he has no authority to give; Syrian territory, the Golan Heights to be precise, to Israel. Something that one day could trigger a full scale Arab-Israeli War.

This is of extreme importance yet no real outcry comes from world leaders; well not so far.

The main reason for that decision given by senior US Administration figures is that “God anointed Trump to save the Jews”.

Not forgetting Trump’s need (which we the people don’t understand exactly why) to support Prime Minister Netanyahu in his difficult upcoming elections in Israel – in part because both countries failed to ‘regime change’ Syria – but more importantly to help the ‘financial terrorists’ who formed a company jointly that has already started drilling for oil in the Golan Heights. You might like to know who owns such oil drilling company which should answer a plethora of questions in one go that you must be asking yourselves.

The shareholder’s names tells us everything; Dick Cheney; Baron Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch. The titular heads of neocons, bankers and media on the planet.

In ending there is no more evidence required for us, the people of the world, to rise up against the globalist dark forces wherever they exist, be it in Brussels, London, France or Washington. We must demand democratic elections or start revolutions, the latter has already begun in France in the form of ‘the yellow vests’. And Brexit, by definition, is a rejection by the British people of globalism and American Hegemony.

The pattern of US destabilization and destruction of States to loot them of their sovereign resources is the unseen history of the last 100 years, not taught in any university, anywhere in the West.

As far as Ukraine is concerned, its government was taken down by the CIA and replaced by an ultra fascist regime that has full backing from America. This is no secret. But the MSM simple don’t report it.

US led NATO is ‘the transnational war machine’ of the world, devouring almost all free countries wealth. It can extort to terrorize all into conformity to the global ‘carcinogenic’ US Neocon imperialistic strategy.

A total estimated 20m people around the world have died since the end of WW11 at the hands of US Forces. Think about that for a moment.

One of the most famous sayings attributed to America’s great President Abraham Lincoln is about deception: “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

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‘Dark day for internet freedom’: EU approves controversial copyright reform

Julia Reda, a German MEP with the Pirate Party, described it as a “dark day for internet freedom.”

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The European Parliament has voted to adopt the highly controversial Article 13 provision which would govern the production and distribution of content online under the auspices of increasing copyright protections.

Tuesday’s move will update the EU’s 20-year-old copyright rules and will govern everything from audiovisual content to memes, much to the dismay of many social media users who have already begun outpouring their grief online.

MEPs passed the legislation by 348 votes to 274 Tuesday. Opponents had hoped for last-minute amendments to be made but their efforts were in vain.

Julia Reda, a German MEP with the Pirate Party, described it as a “dark day for internet freedom.”

Article 13 or ‘The Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market’ makes all platforms legally responsible for the content hosted and shared on their platforms.

The process of updating the bloc’s copyright laws began in the European Commission two years ago, ostensibly to protect Europe’s publishers, broadcasters and artists and guarantee fair compensation from big tech companies.

By essentially forcing companies like Google, Facebook and Twitter to pay artists and publishers for the reproduction of their work online, include in meme format, the EU is effectively clamping down on online memery.

The onus will now be on tech companies to clamp down on content-sharing on their platforms, which will likely ensure yet more draconian policing of speech and content.

EU member states now have two years to pass their own laws putting Article 13 into effect.

Tens of thousands marched in protest across Germany ahead of the vote, decrying what they viewed as severe online censorship.

Tech giant Google said that while the directive is “improved” it will still lead to legal uncertainty and will damage Europe’s creative and digital economies.

Critics have argued that the only way for Article 13 to be effectively enforced would be through the use of upload filters which automatically check content to see if it’s copyrighted or not, at least in theory. However, the exact mechanics of such a system have yet to be fully debated and the potential for abuse is immediately clear.

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