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China cuts off economic dialogue with Australia. New Zealand breaks from Five Eyes

China cuts off economic dialogue with Australia. New Zealand breaks from Five Eyes
The Duran: Episode 965

China “Indefinitely” Suspends Economic Dialogue With Australia As Relations Continue To Deteriorate

China “Indefinitely” Suspends Economic Dialogue With Australia As Relations Continue To Deteriorate

China on Thursday announced the “indefinite” suspension of all activity under a China-Australia Strategic Economic Dialogue amid strained relations between the two countries, its state economic planner said on Thursday. The news caused the Aussie Dollar to fall sharply, dropping as low as 0.7701 vs the US dollar vs. Wednesday’s $0.7747.

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RealPeter
RealPeter
May 10, 2021
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NZ’s enthusiasm as a US ally has often been underwhelming. During WWII, there was a pitched street fight – in Wellington, I think – between the locals and US troops on leave from the Pacific, the former not greatly appreciating the latter’s presence or attitudes. NZ was also an extremely reluctant ally during the US war in Vietnam – the government had its arm severely twisted by LBJ in 1966, but still only sent an artillery company of 548 troops; according to official figures, a total of 3,000 NZers (compared with 60,000 Australians) served in Vietnam between 1963 (consisting only… Read more »

Luka-The-K9
Reply to  RealPeter
May 10, 2021

Of course there are some immediate concerns about well fare in the UK:

https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports

John B. Lockett
John B. Lockett
Reply to  RealPeter
May 11, 2021

You Make sound that they doing charity work. They were there KILLING people in the name of the USA

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  RealPeter
May 11, 2021

It did not happen in just N.Z. It also happened in Australia, Brisbane in fact, after McArthur got his butt kicked by the Japs he hi tailed it to Brisbane and located his head quarters there, nice and safe, far away from flying bullets. However, his troops thought, (as they still do today,) there were the World’s greatest gift and everybody should bow down to them. QLD’s were not impressed and events quickly deteriated to ensure the booting out of the alleged allies. American troop bases in Ozz from that day onwards were frowned upon as a direct result of… Read more »

Hazza
Hazza
Reply to  Eddy
May 11, 2021

Eddy, one old bloke told me that in Brisbane the black GIs on leave were not allowed to the City by the Aussie guards (in accordance with the colonial rules that would not allow “blackies” over certain boundaries) and that eventually a firefight broke out over the Brisbane river between those two. Talk about friendly fire!

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
May 10, 2021

Lets face it in their trade relations OZ needs China more, than China needs OZ. As a matter of facts, for everything OZ produces grows or mines, every kind of lifestock they breed China was their main market, for OZ literally existential. They deliberately destroyed the relations with vile hostile sinophobe ideological spiked fear/hate/war-mongering and a idiotic propaganda war on behest of the US. The Chinese had enough of all this nonsense and took the gloves off, they don’t take such crap from anyone anymore and used their economic power and looked for alternative business partners.

Smoking Eagle
Smoking Eagle
Reply to  Brokenspine66
May 10, 2021

Another thing is that Oz has a small population – only 25 million. It definitely needs China more than China needs it. NZ has fewer than five million people so it needs China even more. The US only cares about Oz and NZ because of their strategic location and its intentions in the region. I hope NZ continues to put its own interests first and “cracks” the Five Eyes.

Geostrategic Sodomy
Geostrategic Sodomy
Reply to  Smoking Eagle
May 11, 2021

Basically, NZ is just like a bigger Diego Garcia for them. Too big to vacate the population but more than ample for its purpose.

Smoking Eagle
Smoking Eagle
Reply to  Geostrategic Sodomy
May 11, 2021

That’s a rather horrible thought. Have you see Marilyn Waring’s 1995 documentary film: Sex, Lies and Global Economics? She was a NZ MP. In the film, she takes a look at the global monetary system and where it all started.

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Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Brokenspine66
May 11, 2021

Spot one mate. Australians are so gullible, it’s incredible howw stupid and short sighted they are.
This is an example, of how powerful we are :
https://www.aspi.org.au/opinion/outstandingly-stupid-act-can-australia-actually-defend-itself


Hazza
Hazza
Reply to  Brokenspine66
May 11, 2021

I don’t think it’s so much that C needs OZ or OZ needs C, both might quite happily trade with many other nations all over the place. But it is so obviously a mutually beneficial supply/demand arrangement that to give it up for American/Biden/Five Eyes glory is just stupid. The current Australian leaders are unbelievably stupid and should be booted out. But I do agree with your main points. How is it that all the election candidates are always morons? Personally I blame the search engine starting with G.

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
Reply to  Hazza
May 12, 2021

There are defacto no substitute trading partners to absorb all the OZ goods and cover for the lost of the Chinese market. Their AmeriCunt Pimps are surely pleased for ideologic + geopolitical reasons but they give a total fuck and will do nothing to fill the void or help, they offer only some meaningless words.

Hazza
Hazza
Reply to  Brokenspine66
May 12, 2021

Yeah, I agree. If the Americans had said that they’ll buy Aussie coal for the next 30 years it would have been perhaps understandable, but this is just cutting your nose to spite your face – no benefit to Australia. And it’s not like Australian trade with Communist China grew so large without anyone noticing. As for replacing trading partners, companies often do adjust quite rapidly even to adverse conditions, but it is a hard road, with no 1 to 1 equivalents. I’d say that both countries have been acting stupidly: Oz for slagging off their main trading partner for… Read more »

Hopium
Hopium
Reply to  Brokenspine66
May 12, 2021

The current government are fools and need to go. If they get voted back in it will be a disaster

Thomas La Porte
Thomas La Porte
May 10, 2021

What has changed is the fact that China takes very seriously the threat of the “Five Eyes” plans to interfere, quite possibly militarily, in the issue of Taiwan. China is making it very clear to the world that it will respond militarily to such interference, as Russia has now done regarding Ukraine.

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
Reply to  Thomas La Porte
May 10, 2021

The AmeriCunts + their ‘Five-Eyes’ lackeys meddle interfere incite violence ect, in HK since the UK released their hostage back to China, in Myamar, Philipines, Vietnam, Thailand literally everywhere in Chinas neigborhood.

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Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Thomas La Porte
May 11, 2021

Um Thomas, I suspect the wording of you post gives the wrong impression to readers. Russia has done nothing of the kind regarding the Ukraine. What Russia HAS DONE, is make it abundantly clear as crystal, should their border be breached by ANY NATO or Ukraine troops, it will all be over within a week. That’s a big difference from what China is saying and doing. China is saying, mind your own business, stay out of ours. And quiet rightly too. Taiwan has always been part of China, and the U.S. and Australia, (their lackey) are simply USING Taiwan for… Read more »

Sarcophilus
Sarcophilus
May 10, 2021

A diiference between Australia and New Zealand is that Australia hosts two joint defense/intelligence bases (Pine Gap and North-west Cape) that are absolutely crucial to US submarine operations and US military and intelligence operations across all their forces in Asia. And there is now a permanent stationing of US military personnel in Darwin. This is why China is taking on Australia. It wants those bases gone. As do I, as an Australian.

Smoking Eagle
Smoking Eagle
Reply to  Sarcophilus
May 10, 2021

There are many people in many countries that want to get rid of the 850+ US military bases that are parked on about 150 countries’ soil. As an Earthling, I want them all gone.

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Sarcophilus
May 11, 2021

Every Australian should want those bases gone. If it comes to a shooting war, rest assured those bases will be the very first to be taken out. Communications these days for the military is the heartbeat. Take it out, and they cannot communicate with their spread out bases. I would not fancy living in Alice Springs or Exmouth.

DavidSasquan
DavidSasquan
May 10, 2021

Alex and Alexander,. your beginning of the “China breaks the Five Eyes” is wrong I think. I lived in America for 33 years before returning to Australia for personal reasons. There I was writing for to my hometown newspaper. The Crestone Eagle in Southern Colorado on American politics. I have done it for 30=-odd years recently deciding top retired when Bidenm was elected. A man I disliked for many years after the SCOTUS hearing on Associate Justice Clarence Thomas over Anita Hill. Biden is a man who never found a war he didn’t like. Your view of him is correct… Read more »

Smoking Eagle
Smoking Eagle
Reply to  DavidSasquan
May 10, 2021

Yes, biting the hand that feeds you to ally with an untrustworthy, duplicitous country that is using you because of your strategic location and one that will drop you as soon as you are no longer useful to it.

Michael
Michael
May 10, 2021

Unlike Alexander, I don’t feel much sympathy for Australia. They’ve been acting provocatively towards China for several years and the Chinese have not responded until recently. The Chinese no longer seem willing to put up with anti-Chinese rhetoric any longer. New Zealand has never been as pro-American as the Australians and have decided to not join in the war of words.

Brokenspine66
Brokenspine66
Reply to  Michael
May 11, 2021

I feel much sympathy for the OZ’s ordinary commoners their economic livelihoods are wrecked out of ideological fanatism and slavish/whoring obedients of their corrupt rotten Regime + Politclown Establishment on behest of their AmeriCunt Pimps.

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Jester Moment
Jester Moment
May 10, 2021
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Alexander does everything he can to promote the CCP’s China. It dumbfounds me!

Antares
Antares
Reply to  Jester Moment
May 11, 2021

Yes, me too, and you are downvoted. But why? Formosa used to be Dutch. Not that I want it back (I’m Dutch too), we didn’t even defend it against the Portuguese, who didn’t defend it against the British. I simply can’t say that Formosa/Taiwan BELONGS to China. Do the United States belong to the native Americans? I see them step out of their cars and talk through their mobile phones. Their culture is no longer there. Do the Falklands belong to Britain or to Argentine? Do the Dutch islands in front of Venezuela belong to us or to them? What… Read more »

Helga I. Fellay
Helga I. Fellay
May 10, 2021
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Positive developments, much as expected. I don’t know why anyone would be surprised. Unlike the US and the 5 Eyes, both China and Russia seem to know exactly what to do, when to do it, and what not to do. I know nothing about NZ’s president, except two things, and they were both brilliant. It’s no surprise that she doesn’t want to be part of the Five Eyes.

RealPeter
RealPeter
Reply to  Helga I. Fellay
May 11, 2021

FYI: NZ is a constitutional monarchy, not a republic, and doesn’t have a president. Jacinda Adern is the Prime Minister. The legal head of state is Queen Elisabeth II, represented by a Governor General when she is not in NZ, which is practically all the time. The Governor General, now always a New Zealander, is nominated by the NZ government.

Personally, I’m in favour of cutting ties with the British monarchy and having an alternative head of state, but, to be honest, this is probably not the majority opinion at present.

Helga I. Fellay
Helga I. Fellay
Reply to  RealPeter
May 12, 2021

what you explained is no doubt true, but does not change my opinion that the PRIME MINISTER of NZ, the de facto ruler, made two very intelligent decisions. So I called her President instead of Prime Minister, please calm yourself, it makes no difference. The Queen is too busy worrying how to deal with Harry and Meghan to worry about what the Prime Minister of NZ is saying. Not that it would matter, even if she did.
But thanks for the education. Always appreciated.

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Susan Rarick
Susan Rarick
May 11, 2021

Not sure this is the best option for China. Russia and Russia are like two Ozark feuding families getting together to fight the revenuers. Only expect it to last for so long before they go back to feuding. My bet would still be on Russia. They have the patriotism very few other countries have and if you watched the V day celebration notice how Putin just gets along with the common Russian.

Eddy
Eddy
Reply to  Susan Rarick
May 11, 2021

Susan, I suspect you know very little about China. Sadly most people gain their knowledge from very questionable and suspect MSM sources. It helps to actually speak to Chinese and Taiwanese people themselves. Not the mouth pieces that have an axe to grind, but the ordinary people who will be called upon to be slaughtered by thousands should war break out. I walk weekly with both, and the information I gain from them is invaluable. Of course I have a head start too, being a Vietnam Veteran who experienced the lies and deception at first hand, aimed at another innocent… Read more »

Hazza
Hazza
May 11, 2021
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A&A, one thing that you didn’t cover in your excellent discussion was that Jacinta Ardern is the former head of Socialist Youth International. To have a photo-op with Xi with red flags flying in the background must have been irresistible! How she came to be leading NZ with this background is quite the mystery. Don’t the Kiwis know?

Helga I. Fellay
Helga I. Fellay
Reply to  Hazza
May 12, 2021

Could it be that the Kiwis know more than you do?

Hazza
Hazza
Reply to  Helga I. Fellay
May 12, 2021

Are you saying Kiwis are socialists predominantly?

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