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Poland commits “ACT OF BARBARISM” and begins DESTROYING Soviet war memorials

What was once unthinkable is now a fact of life in modern Europe.

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After months of passing the necessary legislation and making the requisite threats, Poland has begun demolishing war memorials to the Soviet Army which have stood in Poland since 1945.

Poland has not negotiated the matter with Russia, nor have Polish authorities even appeared interested in inter-state dialogue about a deeply serious issue in the context of wider world history and historical memory.

Russia has condemned the gravely insulting moves. The Russian Foreign Ministry has condemned the act of “barbarism” against the eternal memory of the war heroes in the following way,

“We consider this outrageous incident an illustration and direct consequence of the Polish government’s anti-Russian policy in the memorial field among other”.

The Foreign Ministry further condemned the destruction as an “act of vandalism”.

The Russian Defence Ministry further stated,

“The Polish authorities, without notification and consent from the Russian side, demolished all the architectural elements of the burial site, including the mausoleum of the Red Army soldiers, within the grave. This is an outrageous act of insulting the memory of those who liberated the world from the brown plague of fascism”.

Writing in The Duran on 23 July of this year, geo-political expert Andrew Korybko proposed that Russian civil society groups help relocate the monuments to Russia, thus taking them off Polish hands while preserving the eternal memory of the liberators of Europe from fascism on Russian soil.

However, without even allowing dialogue about the issue, Poland has ruined any chances for reconciliation. Instead, the authorities have begun demolishing sacred sites dedicated to those who liberated Poland from the fascist enemy.It is an act our spiteful and twisted act of insulting historical revisionism that sets a frightening precedent for modern Europe.

One Polish man posted a live video of the daylight destruction of the memorial posted a comment stating,

“History is happening before our eyes”.

He also declared that he was “feeling excited”.

Far from being “exciting” this tragic act of vandalism is an international disgrace that has been allowed to happen in the heart of Europe which could well still be under fascist occupation if not for the heroic acts of the Soviet soldiers whose monuments are being desecrated by a state actor.

READ MORE: Poland resurrects a dangerous idea from its 20th century past

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Russia (USSR) paid the price of 600.000 dead young citizens (soldiers of the Red Army) to liberate Poland from Nazi occupation and to save Polish people from Nazi genocide. And how do Poles thank Russia for this? By destroying monuments to those soldiers who gave their lives when liberating Poland! This is one of many other reasons (e.g. Polish participation in aggression on Iraq in 2003…) why I despise today’s Poland.

hestroy
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hestroy

Polaks are imbeciles. Everyone knows that.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)
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VeeNarian (Yerevan)

No-one can save a slave nation from themselves.

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bbbar

Agreed. Specifically one that willingly accepts slavery.

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Walter Dublanica
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Walter Dublanica

I also despise the Polish government that allowed and encouraged this to happen. Hopefully the Polish people themselves do not agree to destroying monuments to those who liberated them from the Nazi’s.

Marcin Antkowiak
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Marcin Antkowiak

Liberated? Soviet troops stationed in Poland until 1992. Also, Soviet Union invaded Poland on 17th of September 1939 joining Hitler and immediately started murdering Polish people. After so called liberation, they raped and looted.

Rastislav Veľká Morava
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Rastislav Veľká Morava

USA Troops stationed in Germany with Nukes (they refuse to leave) and in Poland.
Please call that an occupation, as you call Soviet Bases in Warsaw Pact Countries an occupation.

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

You beat me to it. The US has never left Germany.

Marcin Antkowiak
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Marcin Antkowiak

Obviously, it was an occupation. According to the Potsdam treaty by the way.

Rastislav Veľká Morava
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Rastislav Veľká Morava

You did not answer question, due to delusion. I understand.

BogSik
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BogSik

we do radecku we do😆 but u don’t call yourselves ty vole nebo ty krávo for nothing😂

Rastislav Veľká Morava
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Rastislav Veľká Morava

Where I am from in Morava/Silesia, we don’t use those sissy terms. We call “yourselves” ty kurvo, ty píčo, Pšonků zkurveného! Jsi Jednoduchá Vatikánská kurva!

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

The following is taken from The Daily Mail n 2009: Putin argued that Britain’s policy of appeasement with Hitler in 1939 had left Stalin with no choice but to sign a non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany – including a secret clause carving up Poland. ‘If we are going to speak objectively about history we must understand it does not have just one colour. It was diverse and a huge number of mistakes were made by all sides. And all these actions created the conditions for the large scale aggression by Nazi Germany.’ Russia has never apologised for the invasion of… Read more »

BogSik
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BogSik

spot on👏 but the so called annexation was later followed by full and agreed incorporation of Czechia and Slovakia into 3rd Reich and their full support of the German war effort particularly by czechia for full 6 years. And for that they got a reward😎
They got to expand their territory by full and ruthless removal of all Germans from disputed lands. Was that a deal with anglo-zion?😎
Well consider Bell-pottinger fiasco in South Africa as a modus operandi of the crown and alles ist klar😈

Walter Dublanica
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Walter Dublanica

Soviet Union took back Galicia which does not belong to Poland,the people are Ukrainians. Sorry Marcin, you must be Polish.

Marcin Antkowiak
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Marcin Antkowiak

Yes, I’m Polish. You don’t need to feel sorry about that. I’m not. Soviets took eastern part of Poland and gave us part of eastern Germany taken by them after the partition of Poland in XVIII century. Ukrainian nationalist movement was supported by Hitler(look up Stefan Bandera), they committed mass slaughter of Polish people in 1944. After the war, communists decided to move Polish citizens from today’s Ukraine to the west to end the the violence from Ukrainians. By the way, Right Sector supported by the US is a continuation of OUN. During its existence, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought… Read more »

Walter Dublanica
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Walter Dublanica

Both of you Polish guys have very limited knowledge of Ukraine. Ukrainians and Russians are one and the same people. Russia has 7,000 nuclear weapons and are the big brothers to Ukrainians. So be very careful who you pick on. Try Latvia only a few million people.

BogSik
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BogSik

Walter stop craping in public😆 Ukraine never existed before soviets set up a Republic of that name partly on Polish Crown lands and there where no Ukrainians before then. Ukraine was always as is today multinational and mostly occupied by southern Russins who also gave national identity to Russians. Due to the bolshevic genocide of mainly Polish but also German inhabitants of these lands and later genocide of more Polish by ukrainian UPA and other ultra nationals helping Germans, todays Ukraine has very few minorities left but still few Poles, Czechs Romanians and Hungarians.

BogSik
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BogSik

this goes for uuu moron and the author of this propaganda!
U r one kind of a mental nutcase Adam for carping in public 😂 but than u probably are paid a lot 😆 assumIng u do have some cash left from drug binges do some reading on bolshevic and later soviet genocide of Polish citizens between 1918 and 1953 😆
have a good one😎

Isabella Jones
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Isabella Jones

Perhaps it is part of a revival of European fascism – and this time Russia will not be on hand to save the barbarians from their savage rulers.

Valeria Nollan
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Valeria Nollan

Very good observation.

Marcin Antkowiak
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Marcin Antkowiak

You need to educate yourself. During the WWII there was no Russia but Soviet Union, massive difference. SU was the most murderous state in the history. Have you heard about Gulags or people being killed for having clean/white hands? By the way, Soviets joined Hitler in invasion on Poland.

Isabella Jones
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Isabella Jones

You need to learn a few manners and a lot of critical thinking skills. And please, dont reply to me. I have no interest in talking to someone like you. I will not answer and will just block you.

Marcin Antkowiak
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Marcin Antkowiak

Typical when someone doesn’t have a proper argument to reply with.

BogSik
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BogSik

😂😂😂 give one example when Russia or rather soviet union or bolshevia saved anyone from anything👊
Yet there are at least 3 historical events during which participation of the Polish saved the collective sorry asses of the rest of Europe and the genocidal Catholic Church😈
And u can block me too😗

VeeNarian (Yerevan)
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VeeNarian (Yerevan)

Now, lets see how many millions of refugees from Syria, Afghanistan and Africa relocate to Poland. They must be good “Europeans” and take at least 5 million. Let’s face it, Warsaw and Krakow needs a bit of colour and excitement. They are too boring and monochrome compared to London, Birmingham and Manchester.
Now, Poland, be good “Europeans” say “aaaah” and swallow 5 million refugees. Or would do you really want to be thrown at Uncle Putin’s mercy???

hestroy
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hestroy

??? WTF?

VeeNarian (Yerevan)
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VeeNarian (Yerevan)

You don’t see the connection between “European values”, rejecting and re-writing the past with the destruction of Soviet memorials and being forced to take millions of refugees produced by the actions of the same US/EU/NATO gang?
Well, Poland, Hungary, Czech and Slovak republics and the rest will soon find out.
Gee, don’t we all love “European values” when monochrome nations are forcibly colourized by brown people like me? Lots of empty spaces in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and especially Poland. Lots of room for big, BIG mosques.
Do, enjoy!!!

Rastislav Veľká Morava
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Rastislav Veľká Morava

Please don’t bring Hungary, Czech and Slovakia into this.

Soviet (liberator) War memorials in Morava are protected. In my village it is painted, and maintained with flowers and bouquets.

No rape-fugees for us no matter how much someone may wish it so!

VeeNarian (Yerevan)
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VeeNarian (Yerevan)

I am so sorry for you. The European courts WILL force refugees down the throats of all EU countries.There is no choice. The only question is how many. I am so so sorry. That is why the UK voted for Brexit. We had enough and then there was the EU created mess in Ukraine and Turkey in line to join the EU.
No more.

Rastislav Veľká Morava
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Rastislav Veľká Morava

No need to be sorry. Will not happen.

mikhas
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mikhas

The Saker suggested that Russia should totally ignore these repulsive cock-sucking prostitutes and sever all ties, that makes perfect sense after this. The American regime without much history of their own is of course jumping up and down in joy.

ruca
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ruca

That article from the Saker, as well as most of his articles, is brilliant. The best blog on the web and lots of smart comments.

BogSik
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BogSik

that would be splendid😎
and seaker is a dick when it comes to history being soviet -bred and indoctrinated😂

Simon
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Simon

Not the first act of ‘cleansing’ carried out by the Poles, nor the most monstrous.
Best to leave them alone in their xenophobic homogeneous little fantasy land.

seby
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seby

Trying to weigh up whose selective historical memory is worse, that of Americans or Poles. Probably the Poles. They think the US are going to sacrifice 600,000 of their people for them? Really sad day in Polish history.

lmimkac
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lmimkac

Big Polish heroes… attacking statues… hehe… well they have a good example from their utter friends as they wanted them to buy their lovely polish apples a few years back… how can they fight someone without history? I hold my deepest contempt for them because nobody from the crowd protested the decision… i hold my deepest contempt for them. And to be honest we in Eastern Europe alwyas did.. blaaah…

DexterSverige
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DexterSverige

The Soviet Union has never ‘liberated’ Poland – those who claim that are totally ignorant of history.

First of all Poland was divided in 1939 under mutual agreement between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union – and from 1945 and onward Poland was occupied by the Soviets and served as a buffer zone towards NATO. Was the Soviet union a ‘better occupier’ than the Germans? I guess that’s up for debate – but there should be no doubt that both were hostile occupiers.

bricsandthefreeworld
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bricsandthefreeworld

Do we got ourselves a one-comment Polish troll! What took you so long?

tapatio
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tapatio

He’s trolling for the fascist NATO (ZioUSA) regime – which happens to include Poland at the moment.

DexterSverige
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DexterSverige

I am not Polish

I am not a troll

I have no sympathy for the US or the Israeli governments what so ever

The above doesn’t change the fact that the Soviet union occupied Poland after WW2

Kaput
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Kaput

poland is a fascis……..nazi jerkdom

Guy
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Guy

Nazis are nationalists , who mostly believe in their divine right to rule as a race .Who else does that remind you of ? Hint , like Dexter says ” Guess where they went “

tapatio
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tapatio

Well, little boy you have been trolling me and others – that makes you a troll.

From the Bolshevik/Communist “revolution” into the ’50s/’60s, Russia was largely run by Rothschild’s Jews. Now Russia is run by Russians.

Since Poland and Ukraine form Khazaria and the place where Talmudic Judaism (95% of all Jews) was spawned, it might be pretty obvious that they are/have been Jewish controlled.

Rastislav Veľká Morava
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Rastislav Veľká Morava

Not only that, Genetic haplogroup studies have confirmed the significant “ashkenazi” haplogroup coursing through Poland and Western U-Krajina

DexterSverige
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DexterSverige

So what are you disagreeing with ‘little boy’? Or you’re just off your meds today?

tapatio
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tapatio

Were you bright enough to read my comment?

tapatio
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tapatio

Poland was occupied by the Nazis. Russia/USSR/Stalin REMOVED the Nazis and anyone with the delusion that Hitler was any better than Stalin is an imbecile.

Now that Poland is becoming a voluntary Nazi state, with Ukraine/US/IsraHELL/Saudi Arabia, etc, Poland will soon relearn the lesson that ANYTHING is better than fascism.

DexterSverige
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DexterSverige

First he joined them and then he removed them for his own purposes and kept Poland occupied. You could use a bit of history education (and some civil manner for that matter)

http://www.dw.com/en/molotov-ribbentrop-pact-a-honeymoon-for-two-dictators/a-17873179

Aleksandar Tomić
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Aleksandar Tomić

He was only following an example in promotion of European values, just ask the Czechs and Slovaks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact

Rastislav Veľká Morava
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Rastislav Veľká Morava

Yes our “Slavic Brothers” and neighbours, Poland were really good to relieve us of territory, precisely at the same as Hitler was occupying and annexing Bohemia and Moravia, for their so called protectorate.
My now departed Grandmother never got over telling me the disgust that she had for those Polish Actions and was wary of Poles till her dying day. Her home was less than 45 km from Polish border.

tapatio
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tapatio

Stalin did not “join” Hitler. He signed a treaty to avoid war with Germany at the time.

After Napoleon, the Jewish Bolsheviks and then Hitler, Russia needs a buffer against the West.

As to your opinion, your choice of one of the most INFANTILE of sit-coms as your identity says all that’s necessary about your intelligence.

Kaput
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Kaput

it seems we looking at ukraine N0.2…………. they are so damn arrogant that they deserve all thats coming……….. I wnder why u kranians dont take refuge in Poland rather than in Russia……….. Poland has always been a destabilizing factor….. best thing that can happen is their financial ruin.

tapatio
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tapatio

Poland and Western Ukraine have always been welfare states – useless dependents on whoever is willing to adopt them.

7.62x54r
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7.62x54r

LOL. Now Poland is occupied by the US and NATO militaries; taking in unwanted blacks and Ukrainians as alien refugees and in IMF austerity which sells off state assets to the German-US-UK banks. Unable to offend the Germans and nazi Ukrainians, they take down Russian war memorials. It is a European form of Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

Walter Dublanica
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Walter Dublanica

Russians took Galicia from Poland which was Ukrainian populated for centuries.

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Punisher 1

What is particularly unforgivable in this case is one part of the complex destroyed was a mausoleum with the “remains” of the dead buried in it. Not just a “statue” but the eternal graves of soldiers. There can be no forgiveness for that. The Polish have crossed the line between stupidity and evil .And only harsh and savage punishment can cleanse that crime.Russia may as a state do nothing. But hopefully Russians as a people with take retribution for that disgrace. A good first (only first ) step would be for citizens to demolish the Smolensk monument put up in… Read more »

Guy
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Guy

But the Russian people are probably aware that 2 wrongs don’t make a right.At least I hope they are .But then again with your handle of “Punisher” , you are forgiven to think this way.
Cheers .

Alexandra
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Alexandra

As I mentioned in a post a few weeks ago, Poland never, ever took the best political decisions. It was always the wrong decisions because of their idiotic hatred of the Russians since they were kicked out of Moscow in early 17th century.

BogSik
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BogSik

please get the facts right😆
Polish occupation of Moscow was by invitation of some Boyars trying to put their Zar on the throne. And since they invited few drunks and not real Polish crown army, the occupation ended when they runout of wine and food.😎

Walter Dublanica
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Walter Dublanica

Poland’s actions in destroying memorials to Red Army soldiers who liberated them from the Nazi’s is as despicable as can be. Shame on Poland. Why does the U.S. refuse to condemn Poland’s actions? Are we O.K. with what the Poles are doing? The fighting the Red Army did in defeating the Nazi’s saved millions of American lives.

Gonzogal
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Gonzogal

Didnt you know??? According to America, THEY won the war and liberated Europe!

Walter Dublanica
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Walter Dublanica

This is what Hollywood says. 95% of the Germans that got killed in WWII got killed on the eastern front fighting the Red Army.

Gonzogal
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Gonzogal

True, but Hollywood and the US regime dont let the truth stand in their way of a “good story” aka their lies and propaganda!

curri
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curri

You should also condemn the same thing happening in US. Slaveholders said war was about slavery, but the Southern troops (the vast majority not slaveholders) were fighting an invasion of their homeland. And everyone should know that Lincoln said the war was about preserving the union. He famously said that if he could preserve the union without freeing a single slave he would do so.

Guy
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Guy

Acts of barbarity .I am truly surprised at the thinking in Poland and most Baltic states for that matter with anything regarding Russia .I hope it is not too contagious .

Valeria Nollan
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Valeria Nollan

This is a tragic and deeply evil act on the part of the Polish government. It speaks volumes about the quality of the people who allowed this to happen. I pity them. Instead of ennobling themselves or humiliating the millions of Soviet citizens who sacrificed their lives to liberate Poland from fascism, they only bring disgrace on themselves. How appalling that the destroyers of these important monuments seek to inflict pain on the Russian people.

Arseniy 'Motorola' Pavlov
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Arseniy 'Motorola' Pavlov

“Envy runs deep and goes hand in hand with hatred.”
Poles prove that assertion.

Aleksandar Tomić
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Aleksandar Tomić

Ofc, there are memorials in Russia from the Poles, that can, let’s say, go through the same ordeal…

bbbar
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bbbar

It’s more important to above their nonsense, no reason to stoop to their level.

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

meh

XRGRSF
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XRGRSF

Maybe now patriotic Russians will understand the feelings of Southern White Americans.

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

If the Polish government is committing such a nasty act, it seems likely that they have orders to do so. It looks like another provocation to goad Russia into conflict but it won’t work, anymore than all the other insults, thefts and assassinations have succeeded. Vladimir Putin had a good week last week, in China and in Vladivostok. The banksters will just have to suck it up.

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Given its status as a major energy exporter, Russia has leverage that could help attract partners to its new SWIFT alternative.

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On Friday, one day after Russia and China pledged to reduce their reliance on the dollar by increasing the amount of bilateral trade conducted in rubles and yuan (a goal toward which much progress has already been made over the past three years), Russia’s Central Bank provided the latest update on Moscow’s alternative to US-dominated international payments network SWIFT.

Moscow started working on the project back in 2014, when international sanctions over Russia’s annexation of Crimea inspired fears that the country’s largest banks would soon be cut off from SWIFT which, though it’s based in Belgium and claims to be politically neutral, is effectively controlled by the US Treasury.

Today, the Russian alternative, known as the System for Transfer of Financial Messages, has attracted a modest amount of support within the Russian business community, with 416 Russian companies having joined as of September, including the Russian Federal Treasury and large state corporations likeGazprom Neft and Rosneft.

And now, eight months after a senior Russian official advised that “our banks are ready to turn off SWIFT,” it appears the system has reached another milestone in its development: It’s ready to take on international partners in the quest to de-dollarize and end the US’s leverage over the international financial system. A Russian official advised that non-residents will begin joining the system “this year,” according to RT.

“Non-residents will start connecting to us this year. People are already turning to us,”said First Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Russia Olga Skorobogatova. Earlier, the official said that by using the alternative payment system foreign firms would be able to do business with sanctioned Russian companies.

Turkey, China, India and others are among the countries that might be interested in a SWIFT alternative, as Russian President Vladimir Putin pointed out in a speech earlier this month, the US’s willingness to blithely sanction countries from Iran to Venezuela and beyond will eventually rebound on the US economy by undermining the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency.

To be sure, the Russians aren’t the only ones building a SWIFT alternative to help avoid US sanctions. Russia and China, along with the European Union are launching an interbank payments network known as the Special Purpose Vehicle to help companies pursue “legitimate business with Iran” in defiance of US sanctions.

Given its status as a major energy exporter, Russia has leverage that could help attract partners to its new SWIFT alternative. For one, much of Europe is dependent on Russian natural gas and oil.

And as Russian trade with other US rivals increases, Moscow’s payments network will look increasingly attractive,particularly if buyers of Russian crude have no other alternatives to pay for their goods.

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The US is pulling out of a nuclear missile pact with Russia. The Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty requires both countries to eliminate their short and medium-range atomic missiles.

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If the US ditches the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF), it could collapse the entire nuclear non-proliferation system, and bring nuclear war even closer, Russian officials warn.

By ending the INF, Washington risks creating a domino effect which could endanger other landmark deals like the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) and collapse the existing non-proliferation mechanism as we know it, senior lawmaker Konstantin Kosachev said on Sunday.

The current iteration of the START treaty, which limits the deployment of all types of nuclear weapons, is due to expire in 2021. Kosachev, who chairs the Parliament’s Upper House Foreign Affairs Committee, warned that such an outcome pits mankind against “complete chaos in terms of nuclear weapons.”

“Now the US Western allies face a choice: either embarking on the same path, possibly leading to new war, or siding with common sense, at least for the sake of their self-preservation instinct.”

His remarks came after US President Donald Trump announced his intentions to “terminate” the INF, citing alleged violations of the deal by Russia.

Moscow has repeatedly denied undermining the treaty, pointing out that Trump has failed to produce any evidence of violations. Moreover, Russian officials insist that the deployment of US-made Mk 41 ground-based universal launching systems in Europe actually violates the agreement since the launchers are capable of firing mid-range cruise missiles.

Leonid Slutsky, who leads the Foreign Affairs Committee in parliament’s lower chamber, argued that Trump’s words are akin to placing “a huge mine under the whole disarmament process on the planet.”

The INF Treaty was signed in 1987 by then-President Ronald Reagan and Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. The deal effectively bans the parties from having and developing short- and mid-range missiles of all types. According to the provisions, the US was obliged to destroy Pershing I and II launcher systems and BGM-109G Gryphon ground-launched cruise missiles. Moscow, meanwhile, pledged to remove the SS-20 and several other types of missiles from its nuclear arsenal.

Pershing missiles stationed in the US Army arsenal. © Hulton Archive / Getty Images ©

By scrapping the historic accord, Washington is trying to fulfill its “dream of a unipolar world,” a source within the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

“This decision fits into the US policy of ditching the international agreements which impose equal obligations on it and its partners, and render the ‘exceptionalism’ concept vulnerable.”

Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov denounced Trump’s threats as “blackmail” and said that Washington wants to dismantle the INF because it views the deal as a “problem” on its course for “total domination” in the military sphere.

The issue of nuclear arms treaties is too vital for national and global security to rush into hastily-made “emotional” decisions, the official explained. Russia is expecting to hear more on the US’ plans from Trump’s top security adviser, John Bolton, who is set to hold talks in Moscow tomorrow.

President Trump has been open about unilaterally pulling the US out of various international agreements if he deems them to be damaging to national interests. Earlier this year, Washington withdrew from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) on the Iranian nuclear program. All other signatories to the landmark agreement, including Russia, China, and the EU, decided to stick to the deal, while blasting Trump for leaving.

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After two weeks of denying any connection to Khashoggi’s disappearance, Riyadh has admitted that he was killed by Saudi operatives but it wasn’t really on purpose.

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The hazard of writing about the Saudis’ absurd gyrations as they seek to avoid blame for the murder of the late, not notably great journalist and Muslim Brotherhood activist Jamal Khashoggi is that by the time a sentence is finished, the landscape may have changed again.

As though right on cue, the narrative has just taken another sharp turn.

After two weeks of denying any connection to Khashoggi’s disappearance, Riyadh has ‘fessed up (sorta) and admitted that he was killed by Saudi operatives but it wasn’t really on purpose:

Y’see, it was kinda’f an ‘accident.’

Oops…

Y’see the guys were arguing, and … uh … a fistfight broke out.

Yeah, that’s it … a ‘fistfight.’

And before you know it poor Jamal had gone all to pieces.

Y’see?

Must’ve been a helluva fistfight.

The figurative digital ink wasn’t even dry on that whopper before American politicos in both parties were calling it out:

  • “To say that I am skeptical of the new Saudi narrative about Mr. Khashoggi is an understatement,” tweeted Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. “First we were told Mr. Khashoggi supposedly left the consulate and there was blanket denial of any Saudi involvement. Now, a fight breaks out and he’s killed in the consulate, all without knowledge of Crown Prince. It’s hard to find this latest ‘explanation‘ as credible.”
  • California Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement that the new Saudi explanation is “not credible.” “If Khashoggi was fighting inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, he was fighting for his life with people sent to capture or kill him,” Schiff said. “The kingdom and all involved in this brutal murder must be held accountable, and if the Trump administration will not take the lead, Congress must.”

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan must think he’s already died and gone to his eternal recreation in the amorous embraces of the dark-eyed houris. The acid test for the viability of Riyadh’s newest transparent lie is whether the Turks actually have, as they claim, live recordings of Khashoggi’s interrogation, torture, murder, and dismemberment (not necessarily in that order) – and if they do, when Erdogan decides it’s the right time to release them.

Erdogan has got the Saudis over a barrel and he’ll squeeze everything he can out of them.

From the beginning, the Khashoggi story wasn’t really about the fate of one man. The Saudis have been getting away with bloody murder, literally, for years. They’re daily slaughtering the civilian population of Yemen with American and British help, with barely a ho-hum from the sensitive consciences always ready to invoke the so-called “responsibility to protect” Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, Syria, Xinjiang, Rakhine, and so forth.

Where’s the responsibility not to help a crazed bunch of Wahhabist head-choppers kill people?

But now, just one guy meets a grisly end and suddenly it’s the most important homicide since the Lindbergh baby.

What gives?

Is it because Khashoggi was part of the MSM aristocracy, on account of his relationship with the Washington Post?

Was it because of his other, darker, connections? As related by Moon of Alabama: “Khashoggi was a rather shady guy. A ‘journalist’ who was also an operator for Saudi and U.S. intelligence services. He was an early recruit of the Muslim Brotherhood.” This relationship, writes MoA, touches on the interests of pretty much everyone in the region:

“The Ottoman empire ruled over much of the Arab world. The neo-Ottoman wannabe-Sultan Recep Tayyip Erdogan would like to regain that historic position for Turkey. His main competition in this are the al-Sauds. They have much more money and are strategically aligned with Israel and the United States, while Turkey under Erdogan is more or less isolated. The religious-political element of the competition is represented on one side by the Muslim Brotherhood, ‘democratic’ Islamists to which Erdogan belongs, and the Wahhabi absolutists on the other side.”

With the noose tightening around Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman (MbS), the risible fistfight cock-and-bull story is likely to be the best they can come up with. US President Donald Trump’s having offered his “rogue killers” opening suggests he’s willing to play along. Nobody will really be fooled, but MbS will hope he can persuade important people to pretend they are fooled.

That will mean spreading around a lot of cash. The new alchemy of converting Khashoggi dead into financial gain for the living is just one part of an obvious scheme to pull off what Libya’s Muammar Kaddafi managed after the 1988 Lockerbie bombing: offer up some underlings as the fall guys and let the top man evade responsibility. (KARMA ALERT: That didn’t do Kaddafi any good in the long run.)

In the Saudi case the Lockerbie dodge will be harder, as there are already pictures of men at the Istanbul Consulate General identified as close associates of MbS. But they’ll give it the old madrasa try anyway since it’s all they’ve got.Firings and arrests have started and one suspect has already died in a suspicious automobile “accident.” Heads will roll!

Saving MbS’s skin and his succession to the throne of his doddering father may depend on how many of the usual recipients of Saudi – let’s be honest – bribery and influence peddling will find sufficient pecuniary reason to go along. Saudi Arabia’s unofficial motto with respect to the US establishment might as well be: “The green poultice heals all wounds.”

Anyway, that’s been their experience up to now, but it also in part reflects the same arrogance that made MbS think he could continue to get away with anything. (It’s not shooting someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue, but it’s close.) Whether spreading cash around will continue to have the same salubrious effect it always has had in the past remains to be seen.

To be sure, Trump may succeed in shaking the Saudi date palm for additional billions for arms sales. That won’t necessarily turn around an image problem that may not have a remedy. But still, count on more cash going to high-price lobbying and image-control shops eager to make obscene money working for their obscene client. Some big American names are dropping are dropping Riyadh in a sudden fit of fastidiousness, but you can bet others will be eager to step into their Guccis, both in the US and in the United Kingdom. (It should never be forgotten how closely linked the US and UK establishments are in the Middle East, and to the Saudis in particular.)

It still might not work though. No matter how much expensive PR lipstick the spinmeisters put on this pig, that won’t make it kissable. It’s still a pig.

Others benefitting from hanging Khashoggi’s death around MbS’s neck are:

  • Qatar (after last year’s invasion scare, there’s no doubt a bit of Schadenfreude and (figurative) champagne corks popping in Doha over MbS’s discomfiture. As one source close to the ruling al-Thani family relates, “The Qataris are stunned speechless at Saudi incompetence!” You just can’t get good help these days).

Among the losers one must count Israel and especially Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. MbS, with his contrived image as the reformer, was the Sunni “beard” he needed to get the US to assemble an “Arab NATO” (as though one NATO weren’t bad enough!) and eliminate Iran for him. It remains to be seen how far that agenda has been set back.

Whether or not MbS survives or is removed – perhaps with extreme prejudice – there’s no doubt Saudi Arabia is the big loser. Question are being asked that should have been asked years ago. As Srdja Trifkovic comments in Chronicles magazine:

“The crown prince’s recklessness in ordering the murder of Khashoggi has demonstrated that he is just a standard despot, a Mafia don with oil presiding over an extended cleptocracy of inbred parasites. The KSA will not be reformed because it is structurally not capable of reform. The regime in Riyadh which stops being a playground of great wealth, protected by a large investment in theocratic excess, would not be ‘Saudi’ any longer. Saudia delenda est.”

The first Saudi state, the Emirate of Diriyah, went belly up in 1818, with the death of head of the house of al-Saud, Abdullah bin Saud – actually, literally with his head hung on a gate in Constantinople by Erdogan’s Ottoman predecessor, Sultan Mahmud II.

The second Saudi state, Emirate of Nejd, likewise folded in 1891.

It’s long past time this third and current abomination joined its antecedents on the ash heap of history.

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