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Netanyahu meets with Putin. Warns that Iran’s influence in Syria will come with conflict

Netanyahu meets with Putin. Warns that Iran’s influence in Syria will come with conflict

From the onset of the Syrian war, various outside forces have been diligently working to tear the country apart by any means necessary (even it meant raising an ISIS black flag).

Russia’s entrance into the theater of conflict in Syria stabilized the Assad government, and has lead to the now, seemingly inevitable victory that the Syrian people have fought so hard to earn.

Syria’s preservation, safeguarded by Russia, may have alarmed many bad actors in Syria, who were covertly pushing ISIS forward (the United States comes to mind), but it is Iran’s helping hand in Syria that has now moved Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to hold discussions with Russian President Vladimir Putin on the very deep concern that Iranian influence in Syria would be considered by Israel as a security threat, that would be meet with force if necessary.

Zerohedge analyzes the situation in a complicated, post ISIS Syria…a Syria which is inching ever closer to winning the battle against ISIS, but not winning the war against the outside forces who will continue to view Syria as nothing more than a pipeline route, a Wahhabi satellite, or in the case of Israel, a buffer zone against Iranian expansion.

For Netanyahu and other Israeli officials the chief concern was never the black clad death cult which filmed itself beheading Americans and burning people alive.  “Let the Sunni evil prevail,” they say.

Israel is threatening to escalate military action in Syria against perceived Iranian interests. This week Netanyahu declared“we will act when necessary according to our red lines” while hinting he prefers ISIS presence in Syria as opposed to Iran aligned fighters at his border. This comes as ISIS is now crumbling, and at a time when most world leaders of nations driving the external proxy war in Syria have toned down their rhetoric regarding the future fate of the Assad government.

After years of a regular drumbeat of bellicose statements emanating from the West and repeat talk of “Assad must go”, “red lines”, and years of constantly failed predictions that “regime demise is imminent,” there now seems a general acceptance that the Syrian government has emerged victorious in the 6-year long conflict. Not only did Trump this summer order the closure of the CIA’s regime change program which targeted Assad, but it appears even Gulf nations – lately embroiled in their own inter-GCC political civil war and airing of dirty laundry – have been forced to temper their rhetoric. Turkey also has reluctantly shifted its priorities in Syria after its well-known and documented regime change machinations – which included facilitating the transfer of tens of thousands of foreign jihadists (the core of which joined ISIS) across its southern border – have largely backfired. International media too, generally reflecting undeniable geopolitical realities, have bluntly headlined stories with “And the winner is: Assad” and “We have to accept that Assad will win in Syria” and “How Assad is Winning”.

But it appears Benjamin Netanyahu didn’t get the memo. On Wednesday the Israeli Prime Minister told Russian President Putin that Israel would not tolerate an Iranian presence in Syria and further signaled willingness to go to war in Syria to curtail Iranian influence. “Iran is already well on its way to controlling Iraq, Yemen and to a large extent is already in practice in control of Lebanon,” Netanyahu told Putin, adding further that, “We cannot forget for a single minute that Iran threatens every day to annihilate Israel. Israel opposes Iran’s continued entrenchment in Syria. We will be sure to defend ourselves with all means against this and any threat.”

The two leaders met for three hours in the Black Sea resort of Sochi – their sixth such meeting since September 2015. Putin did not respond publicly to the provocative words on Syria during the portion of the meeting open to reporters. Netanyahu later told Israeli reporters covering the meeting that:

Bringing Shi’ites into the Sunni sphere will surely have many serious implications both in regard to refugees and to new terrorist acts. We want to prevent a war and that’s why it’s better to raise the alarm early in order to stop deterioration.

Netanyahu’s reference to “the Sunni sphere” came after he summarized the closed door part of the discussion as dealing with “Iran’s attempt to establish a foothold in Syria in the places where ISIS was defeated and is leaving.” Netanyahu’s comments are a reflection of an extremely disturbing view which has become so prominent within Israeli defense circles as to be considered establishment: that ISIS is ultimately preferable to Iran and Assad. This is to say that continued ISIS presence in Syria and Iraq is a viable option and possibly better than pro-Iranian or even Russian spheres of influence in the Israeli prime minister’s mind. Of course, this “lesser evil is ISIS” view is nothing new. In Israel, for example, there are even “respected” think tanks tied in with major public universities which openly call for allowing ISIS to thrive in Syria.

The Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies, for example, which is one of Israel’s most internationally visible and influential think tanks (and located on the campus of Israel’s second largest university), published a policy paper last year which made a direct appeal to Israel’s Western partners with the unambiguous message contained in the essay’s title: “The Destruction of Islamic State is a Strategic Mistake.” Author and Director of the Begin-Sadat Centre, Efraim Inbar, argued against a Western military campaign to destroy ISIS while envisioning the group as an effective tool in sowing terror and chaos in Iran and Syria, with the added benefit of keeping Russia bogged down in defense of the Assad government. Inbar spelled this out clearly:

The continuing existence of IS [Islamic State] serves a strategic purpose. The American administration does not appear capable of recognizing the fact that IS can be a useful tool in undermining Tehran’s ambitious plan for domination of the Middle East.

While acknowledging the Islamic State’s utter genocidal brutality, the paper concluded:

The Western distaste for IS brutality and immorality should not obfuscate strategic clarity.

policy paper published by an influential Israeli think tank which contracts with NATO argues that ISIS is a “useful tool” for Israel’s strategic defense. 

Various current and former Israeli defense officials have echoed this point of view over the years, including former Israeli Ambassador to the US Michael Oren, who in 2014 surprised the audience at Colorado’s Aspen Ideas Festival when he said in comments related to ISIS that, “the lesser evil is the Sunnis over the Shias.” Oren, while articulating Israeli defense policy, fully acknowledged he thought ISIS was “the lesser evil”. Likewise, for Netanyahu and other Israeli officials the chief concern was never the black clad death cult which filmed itself beheading Americans and burning people alive, but the possibility of, in the words of Henry Kissinger, “a Shia and pro-Iran territorial belt reaching from Tehran to Beirut” and establishment of “an Iranian radical empire.”

Of course, such a perspective also tends to assume that Syrian and Iraqi sovereignty is non-existent (but instead seen as a mere extension of Iran and Russia), even as both countries now stand in better position in terms of operational sovereignty with Syria having liberated Aleppo and Iraq having regained Mosul. And that’s perhaps why there’s increasingly uninhibited truth-telling in Israel, the Gulf, and D.C. these days: the party is over in terms of the hoped for regime change in Syria. Perhaps now there’s simply more blunt and open talk wherein assumptions are laid bare as introspective strategists realign their talking points while still eyeing the ultimate neocon prize of regime change in Iran.

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Though still rarely acknowledged in international reports, Israel has engaged in overt acts of war in Syria since at least 2012 and 2013, when it launched a massive missile attack against a Syrian defense technology facility in Jamraya outside of Damascus. In 2016 Israel went so far as to target Damascus International Airport, killing a well-known Hezbollah commander. In a significant admission last week, the head of Israel’s air force acknowledged nearly one hundred IDF attacks on convoys inside Syria over the course of the past 5 years. Earlier this summer Netanyahu himself was caught on a hot mic bragging that Israel had struck Syrian targets at least “a dozen times”. And this is to say nothing of Israel’s covert support to al-Qaeda linked groups in Syria’s south, which has reportedly involved weapons transfers and treatment of wounded jihadists in Israeli hospitals, the latter which was widely promoted in photo ops involving Netanyahu himself. As even former Acting Director of the CIA Michael Morell once directly told the Israeli public, Israel’s “dangerous game” in Syria consists in getting in bed with al-Qaeda in order to fight Shia Iran.

Perhaps the biggest blow to Israeli plans for rolling back Iranian presence in Syria came mid-summer of this year, when Trump agreed to a southwest Syria ‘de-escalation zone’ with Russia, which would necessarily involve Iranian cooperation. The agreement implicitly acknowledges Iran’s troop presence in Syria as legitimate, and as reported at the time further “ignored Israel’s positions almost completely.” But analysts are in general agreement that the US-Russia brokered deal has been relatively successful and a step in the right direction. Even the Reuters report on this week’s Netanyahu-Putin meeting seemed to acknowledge the deal’s effectiveness:

Russia has so far shown forbearance toward Israel, setting up a military hotline to prevent their warplanes or anti-aircraft units clashing accidentally over Syria.

But given that Israel has already invested itself so heavily in the push to remove Assad while routinely launching attacks on Hezbollah with impunity, it is unlikely to disengage from Syria anytime soon, even as close Western allies publicly change their tune. Netanyahu’s brazen words to Putin that ‘preventative’ escalation in Syria to destroy what Israeli defense officials commonly call the “Iranian land bridge” (or the so-called ‘Shia crescent’) may in reality be empty diplomatic posturing, yet it does reveal increased Israeli desperation as even the West is seeming to ignore Netanyahu’s repeatedly declared “red lines”.

Regardless, Netanyahu remains the Syria regime change lobby’s best hope. Already, within less than 24 hours of Netanyahu’s Russia visit, neocon columnists are calling for him to unilaterally “take action”:

If he really expects others , especially Putin, that he means business this time, he will have to go beyond words and into actions, as clearly Israel could not and should not allow Iran to turn South Syria into another South Lebanon.

With ISIS foldingrefugees returning to their homes, stability taking root over large swathes of Syria, and successful de-escalation zones holding over parts of the country, it appears that only Netanyahu (along with terror groups like ISIS) is left unhappy in the region. Yet Syria continues on its current hopeful trajectory and path to recovery.


Former Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren: “Let the Sunni evil prevail.”

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Avramijevdan
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Avramijevdan

All of the meetings have purpose and somebody’s plotting behind it, but 6 times in 2 years?!? It looks to me someone is delivering messages.

Mr. Evil-Eye forgot what Russians are saying all along about Golan Heights that have to be returned to Syria. So beyond delivering messages Mr. Evil-Eye probably thinks by “escalating words” he might gain on Golan heights. He should have thought twice.

Kentus
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Kentus
tapatio
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tapatio

I see the eyes of a shark – dead/predatory/sociopathic.

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

He’s like Allen Dulles in that he’s a psychopath faking an avuncular veneer.

tapatio
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tapatio

Now, Dulles did appear avuncular. Bibi’s visage might be compared to the uncle who’s waiting for the pretty niece’s parents to leave so he can rape the child.

To me, he always appears treacherous and predatory.

thnkfryrslf
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thnkfryrslf

Creepy!

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

Look up the YouTube videos where this evil thug is all sweetness and light to the young British Jews he is trying to seduce into coming to Israel. See how so many of them look very wary and suspicious. They’ve seen con jobs before, and Nutty is oozing con job.

stevek9
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stevek9

Can we go back to 1948 and not do this?

tapatio
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tapatio

Go back another year, to 1947, when the UN gave legitimacy to the Khazarian plague infesting Palestine.

Guy
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Guy

It would be better to go back to when the Balfour declaration was signed , which led to the creation of the zionist state.

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

We could keep going back – how about preventing Rhodes, Milner, Grey, Salisbury, Balfour, Rothschild just to name a few, from ruthlessly engineering, their murderous WW1 and Bolshevik revolution to murder the Russian royal family and enslave the Russian people? It goes on and on. The problem is, how to inform enough people, because this knowledge of the few is powerless.

tapatio
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tapatio

Best, of course, would be if George III had hanged Mayer Rothschild and expelled the Talmudic/future-ZionistFascist cult, instead of selling England to Satan just to win a war – which he lost anyway. That would have saved how many hundreds of millions of lives and how much horror?

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

George was probably getting a kickback into the Royal estates. That’s customary Rothschild business.

tapatio
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tapatio

George got the funds he needed to fight against the American colonies and deal with some other issues. Mayer Rothschild got the British economy.

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

And yet after 1776 George never got enough to finish the job, while the other George got enough through Gouverneur Morris and Hayim Solomon to keep him going, until the French won it for him.

tapatio
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tapatio

Once the Rothschilds get their claws into a country, the cash flow is in ONE direction – from the country to the Rothschilds. Who do you think is the vampire sucking everyone from here to Greece dry? They don’t call them vampires for nothing.

you’re right about Washington. But, numerous statements of his indicate that he despised the Jews as blood-sucking parasites.

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

Maybe a year before that when the British turned down the German offer of peace, because the Khazar banksters offered to bring America into the war on the British side in return for Palestine, which the British didn’t own.

Isabella Jones
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Isabella Jones

Netanyahoo can say what he likes, throw whatever tantrum he wants – President Putin will do whatever he deems is essential for Syrian integrity and security, and with it – Russian. Period.

samo war
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samo war

putin is mosad agent ?

Anja Boettcher
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Anja Boettcher

I know what I think of altrgihtist platforms like zerohedge. The same I think about bloody neocons: It’s just the other bunch of genocidal USAdists who fight each other solely about how to distribute profit from US global exploitation among them. To quote another article, voicing a loud pathetic hymn on Mr Dumb’s presidency, making use of USAmerican abuse of misinterpretig other people’s culture. Starting with Trump’s press record, they interpret his idiocies and inaccountability as sign of secret superiority: “But what if I were to tell you that the Donald is, in actuality, the most capable man to lead… Read more »

Guy
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Guy

“Trump will soon call all-in holding a royal straight flush.”
You must be the eternal optimist .I wish I could feel the same but after seeing him cave in to the military generals who now run foreign policy for the US , I am afraid that anyone that thinks he will come out on top and surprise everyone is just ,well , pi$$ing in the wind.
Sorry if I sound pessimistic , as a rule I do like to think positive , but you know that old saying ,fool me once ,shame on me…………………

Cheers.

Anja Boettcher
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Anja Boettcher

This line was a quotation of a zerohedge article. Appriciation of Trump was definitely not mine, but that of an altrightist journalist I have characterised as foolish.

Gio Con
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Gio Con

Iran wouldn’t have any interest or influence in the region if it weren’t for the US and Israel’s regime change wars in the first place. Israel and the US created the conditions for Russia and Iran to step in. Furthermore, Iran has never shown any interest in expanding its borders, so the “Shia Crescent” excuse is just that — an excuse for Israel to continue hostilities. Israel is the only country in the region who has been on a land theft and imperialist rampage for over 70 years.

tapatio
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tapatio

Iran and Russia have very valid reason for interest in Syria. The Khazar colonists in Palestine and Americans, on the other side of the world, have no right or reason…………..other than their incessant lust for power and money.

Larchmonter445
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Larchmonter445

The Israelis were in Sochi to ask for permission to continue to strike. If they thought it was safe for them, they wouldn’t be there in Putin’s house, asking. The reality is tough for them. They are used to flying and killing anyone they want to. The day of local hegemony for Tel Aviv is over. Most importantly, Israeli has shown in the last two months, along the Lebanon border and along the Jordanian border and the US-Russian de-escalation zone in the SW corner, they have zero influence with any outcome. The US could not help them influence Russia, and… Read more »

Guy
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Guy

Iran needs a few of the best deterrents that Russia has to offer and I do believe that it is in the offing .

spoint
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spoint

When Russia got the safe zone in Syria, Israel (america) initially went along and then said, “Uh-Oh.” Then a unanimous (less 5 votes) jew controlled congress voted new sanctions on Russia. So what can the jews do to Russia to top that? And what can Russia do back?

Freethinking Влади́мир
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Freethinking Влади́мир

So far Israel has engaged Syria 100 times media says. Russia can’t do much and the reason is that Israel and the Russian Jewry has quite a hold on Russia. It’s probably nothing compared to the west especially the USA, but it’s not kosher either.

The above statement got me banned from Fort Russ by the way. The proof is in the pudding. You can complain about the US being influenced by the Zio-sphere which happens daily, but not about Russia.

Guy
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Guy

You could be right but I question the motives of the Russian Jewry .You see it is not necessarily , a Jewish issue ,but a zionist issue IMHO and so if you could elaborate please.

Freethinking Влади́мир
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Freethinking Влади́мир

Well, one is colluded with the other. It’s not different from the USA. There’s Jewish interests and there’s Zionist interests, and often they are lumped together though not always in line with each other.

Bente Petersen
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Bente Petersen

and who is behind Israel but UK and USA… !!!! all insane !!!!

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

Can I just add, UK and USA elite, global mafia? Please remember, they have already subjugated us, with their filthy wars and robbery through taxation; and now, the destruction of our culture through organised illegal immigration. From the UK. I haven’t yet ceased to be amazed and horrified, the more I learn about real history.

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

You can get big, repeated doses of that from Howard Zinn’s, A People’s History of the United States.

Also, Hidden History: The Secret Origns of the First World War. Here’s an overview.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/hidden-history-the-secret-origins-of-the-first-world-war/5600090

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

I’ve been loudly promoting Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War since last Christmas, on here! Some of the old regulars must be sick of reading about it, but have been patient and polite enough not to say so. Seriously, I’ve felt like The Ancient Mariner, pinning the unsuspecting wedding guest to the wall, while I tell my tale. Yes, Docherty and Mcgregor’s book is a stunning revelation and so well researched and cited – I even bought several of the widely cited books to thoroughly double-check them and they were spot on.

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

Great!

How about Carroll Quigley?

Quigley’s book as a pdf

http://www.wanttoknow.info/war/tragedy_and_hope_quigley_full1090pg.pdf

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

You’re kidding! That’s the other book I bang on about. It was the main one I bought to check all the references used by Docherty and Mcgregor.

I happened across the late Professor Antony C Sutton on You Tube the other day and will order some of his books. The Best Enemy Money Can Buy looks like a good start. Interestingly, he seemed to cover both geopolitical history and global economics, which is rare.

It’s unbelievable how almost everything we have all been taught and told is a lie. Truly shocking. And so difficult to dig out the truth.

TecumsehUnfaced
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TecumsehUnfaced

Here’s something else that frightening… the sayanim. Israeli Operatives in the U.S. By Jeff Gates July 20, 2010 “Veterans Today” — Americans know that something fundamental is amiss. They sense—rightly—that they are being misled no matter which political party does the leading. A long misinformed public lacks the tools to grasp how they are being deceived. Without those tools, Americans will continue to be frustrated at being played for the fool. When the “con” is clearly seen, “the mark” (that’s us) will see that all roads lead to the same duplicitous source: Israel and its operatives. The secret to Israel’s… Read more »

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

Yes, Israel is somewhere deep in the mix but I understood that Rothschild and co owns Israel and that’s the real puppet master. Israel serves the purpose of the Anglo American elite. They don’t care about the Israeli population anymore than they do any other population. Israel seems to be useful as the means to achieve the Rothschild’s third World War, in the middle east. There wouldn’t be much left of Israel after that, I shouldn’t think. Netanyahu thinks he’s so clever but I suspect he’s just another useful tool to these people. Unfortunately, Rothschild and co use American men… Read more »

permopin
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permopin

Putin paying tribute to the Zionist thug for the Russian successes in Syria? Send the “rat off” with the middle finger gesture.

Guy
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Guy

I don’t think that Netanyahoo’s visit should be interpreted as “Putin paying tribute”.Putin will talk to anyone that wants to talk and that is the Putin style .Probably what makes him the man he is ,very well respected and obviously sought after given the visits that he receives from heads of state from all over the world.

Great Expectations
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Great Expectations

It’s more likely that Putin is being his usual, diplomatic self. His diplomacy and patience are his winning cards. No wonder he is popular in his own country. Can we have one like that?

Guy
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Guy

Netanyahoo never gets the memo or he always refuses to read it.Always playing the victim is his forte and invading the Palestinians for trumped up reasons , reasons that he is guilty of formulating and fooling the world or so he thinks.
Israel will continue on this path until the US cuts it’s support for this oppressive nation .BDS is the only solution .Non violent but hits where it hurts the most , in the pocket book.

Vera Gottlieb
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Vera Gottlieb

And one more who doesn’t pass up a chance to stir up trouble.

Norman
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Norman

Netanyahu, you’re not dealing with stupid American dopeheads here. What can you put on the table for Russia to consider listening to you and don’t think for a minute you can use the Golan Heights as a bargaining chip since you really don’t have a leg to stand on. You assume a lot making threats against others but piss your pants when they glance your way? You’re worse than your best buddy that’s deaf and dumb even on your way to defeat. Get out of Syria moron.

Ithamer
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Ithamer

Until the Palestinian Jews realize their conduct in Palestine is unacceptable therefore their existence will remain in peril.

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