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CNN’s Charlottesville panel defends President Trump.

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Fake news CNN hosted a panel of six Trump supporters Wednesday morning in an effort to continue to spin the Charlottesville protests into more bad press against POTUS Trump.

Unfortunately for CNN and host Alisyn Camerota, the panel completely pushed back against the CNN host, and her persistent argument that President Trump committed some sort of unforgivable sin by condemning both sides for violence in Charlottesville.

The segment was off to a bad start for Camerota when she asked how many panelists were troubled by President Donald Trump’s response to Charlottesville.

Not a single panelist raised their hand, as panelist Bob Viera said…

“I didn’t see anything wrong with it. I mean he addressed the problem. Let’s face reality, there are problems on both sides.”

“I think it’s ridiculous to have me choose between Hitler and Stalin which is what I consider what both groups are.”

“If you’re willing to set fires and burn places to the ground, that doesn’t seem like a very peaceful group to me.”

Via The Daily Caller

One panelist, Daphne Goggins, said she is going to reserve judgement until the matter is fully investigated. Goggins said she is also convinced that not everyone at the rally was a neo-Nazi based on videos she saw on Facebook. When she tried to share those videos, she claims she was censored by the social media site.

After Camerota played a clip of angry white supremacists protesters chanting racial slurs against Jewish people, Goggins defended their right to free speech.

“Those crazy, I don’t know what else to call them. I probably can’t say it on TV. But they still have the right to say those crazy things,” she said.

Panelist Robert McCarthy blamed media bias and said, “The media is not covering it. They’re only focused on making neo-Nazis and white supremacists out to be Trump supporters.”

Trump supporter Amanda Delekta said it was unfair to insinuate that Trump voters are supporting neo-Nazis and said the coverage was negative and uncalled for.

“No one here is supporting the neo-Nazis or the white supremacists. And that narrative is really negative. but what we are talking about is President Trump’s response and he stood in front of America and he condemned the violence that occurred that day,” she said.

Panelist Jimmy Dozier pointed out that only a few hundred people were involved in the Charlottesville incident, but over 60 million people voted for Trump.

“You’re talking about three or four hundred people in Charlottesville. They’re sixty million people that voted for President Trump,” he said. “Why don’t we get a say? Those people aren’t nothing. Democrats have idiots, Republicans have idiots. But we’re talking about us, the sixty million that’s for Trump. We don’t do stuff like that.”

A female Trump supporter named L.A. Key suggested the violence may have been triggered on purpose and there may be ulterior motives behind the division. She too said her information came from Facebook, prompting Camerota to ask if the panel trusted Facebook more than traditional news media outlets.

Each panelist agreed that their trust in the mainstream media was slipping, and they trusted alternative internet sources more than cable news.

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A lot of sense listening to tRump voting Americans, let alone cnn to work out what’s going on in their country. Not! Yeah both condemn neo-nazis and “neo-stalinists” in Charlottesville while they are indifferent to the support of their govt to neo-nazis in the Ukraine and head chopping terrorists in the Middle East, Philippines and elsewhere. Support of genocide by saudi arabia and israel, easy to do when part of its DNA. A country born and bred in slavery and genocide ain’t going to change in a hurry. Even though that’s probably the only way to remove the cancer it… Read more »

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like Egypt you mean? When do you want to tear down the pyramids? You think every white person in America was a slave owner? Republicans freed the slaves, blck, hispanic, young, old, asian white women and men all voted for trump. he got 65 MILLION vote. Am in the UK and i support their president also. so worldwid he has more than the 65m who vote him in. In the ME they are not nations, they are tribes, nations are held togetherin ME by crushing the tribes. It is a different concept of life to how we live. This is… Read more »

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What does Stalin have to do with Charlottesville? The Americans have mixed everything in their heads. The Antifa – who were a just part of the counter-protesters – aren’t communists as a matter of course, but anarchists. These two groups aren’t going along either. And though they might have banded against neo-Nazis, there were hardly any communists to be found in Charlottesville (or the United States for that matter).

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It seems people can only interpret political actions through the lens of “Communist, Fascist, blah blah”. Rarely do they actually understand the meaning of the terms. Although I support everybody’s right to protest, the normalization of these nazis that is going on is comical. Some people have been feeling repressed with their racist views for a long time and are now feeling like it’s ok to come out of the shadows. We’ve been saying it for years, that racism is juuuust below the surface.

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Fully agreed. Plus, in the case that the article deals with, it is an effort of Trump supporters to defend the President’s lame statement. And while it’s obvious that Trump was full of crap on this one (almost certainly influenced by Bannon), the attempt by the CNN pundit to paint him as a closet Nazi is pitiful.

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

18 Months Of Left-Wing Violence || The Alt-Left & Antifa red elephants. youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8QLT6tFWU

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

what normalisation of nazis? honestly where do you see this? on your tv? look outside, i bet you forgot to notice all the mosques springing up

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Where do I see it? We backed a coup in Ukraine and allowed neo-nazis to rise to power. We are currently engaged in a corporate media debate about which protesters, the nazi’s or the leftists, were responsible for the problems in Charlottesville. If you don’t think nazis have been normalized, grab a couple hundred of your friends and try walking down the street dressed in all black carrying ISIL flags and see what happens. I bet a lot of people just like you would want to punch you in the face. We supposedly fought a war against the nazis, people… Read more »

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oh yeah CNN was happy to show ukraine nazis as the good guys, you guys were supporting. US created ISIS. US told libya to give up their weapons of mass destruction and then unleashed ISIS on that country. The US are in Syria illegally, with no invitation from the legitimate government.US used phosphorous bombs and for 5 years were destroying syrian infrastructure under the pretense of hitting ISIS so they could award themselves reconstruction contracts upon regime chagne. CIA put erdogan in power, CIA organised the coup to remove him after he bought chinese weaponry and not exclusively US. we… Read more »

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So everything you said up until “daily attacks on white men” is completely accurate. I don’t call white people racist nazis, I call racist nazis racist nazis. I can tell the difference obviously, there are only a small number of nazis who get inordinate press coverage. White men have control of the entire western world, what exactly are these nazi’s so upset about? How did they develop a victim mentality while reaping every advantage in US society? They should go talk to a Native American if they want to hear about what it’s like to have everything taken from them.… Read more »

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

You want to take western civlisation from the people who built it. not every white person was a slave owner.

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WeAreYourGods

“The people who built” America were slaves, and nobody said all white people owned slaves. That said, for almost 400 years, white Americans benefited from the practice of slavery though, whether involved or not. Slavery was the backbone of the US economy.

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So are you going to condemn antifa and BLM violence against free speech? This is the disagreement. i suggest you look at this video. Why dont you condemn political violence? you keep avoiding it. you have been sold MSM BS. and you are regurgitating it .
am tired of trying to show you your fucking ignorance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S2TZOdXAtQ&list=PLywtE6-BvPsf-kmVdxgmlX6TrUHTibcbC&index=1

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So you should feel free to go ahead and fuck off if you are under the delusion that you are able to somehow convince me of something with your little YouTube links. This is getting boring.

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

even msm is denouncing antifa,

Keith Smith
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What’s your point? I support everybody’s right to protest. I’m not a member of ANTIFA but I support their right to protest too. Did these nazis and klansmen finally get a taste of their own medicine? Were they scared that the state wasn’t stepping in to protect them? THE IRONY. I’m sure you defended BLM’s right to protest just as vigorously when the cops were breaking up the marches and thumping heads. That said, I don’t like nazis or racist good ‘ol boys trying to make people who look like me afraid to walk around their own town. What the… Read more »

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no support of VIOLENT protest. Antifa ALWAYS violent. BLM is allowed to talk as is Antifa if it is peaceful. MSM support violent protest which is out of order. Antifa were in Dover protesting against a peaceful EDL march, they turned the town into a sh1thole. They have no respect, they are funded by globalist george soros and claim to be anti globalist. Antifa have also been labelled a domestic terrorist organisation by the State of New Jersy, and the petition to have them labelled nationally as a domestic terrorist organisation has passed 250k signatures in the US. support their… Read more »

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I’m not the one that needs a history lesson. I do like the fact that you support peaceful BLM protests. At least there’s that.

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

BLM shoot black cops..

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

go to youtube and look at what antifa were doing to Trump supporters two days ago. BLM is BS

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

and am from the UK and have british grandparents and great grandparents etc… you are trying to tell me about fighting nazis? really? you need to wake the fuck up and see what is really going on.

WeAreYourGods
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WeAreYourGods

My Grandfather fought nazis. What did you think, you have exclusive rights to WW2?

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

then you know what a nazi is, also a lot of these so called ‘nazi group members’ were antifa members last year under obama administration. When are you going to condemn antifa and BLM violence? troll

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WeAreYourGods

The irony is that you apparently do not know the behavior of a Tr0ll is exactly what you are doing.

Keith Smith
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as u reply to a post without argument 5 days later. reverse projection methinks

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As if I check Disqus comments when I actually have things to do. Methinks this Trolling session is over.

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condemning nazis is as obvious as condemning killing babies or dropping nukes on rainforests. so fucking obvious yet this thread proves people like you are running around pointing the finger demanding everybody ‘prove’ they dont support nazis. Why do you not condemn political violence against free speech by antifa? You are running around and accusing people of supporting nazism. you have done it to me, by default i support them because i dont state the obvious, i have fingers, i have toes, people have eyes, nazis are bad (smh you fucking spastic). How many people have you pointed the finger… Read more »

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The moral equivalencies you present are comical. Talk about spastic, try some punctuation.

Keith Smith
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so you do not condemn political violence. nuff said. ANTIFA Another Name To Identify Failed Abortions

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Do I condemn political violence? Depends. The war the south lost was based on political and economic violence. The coal miners unions fought against Pinkerton machine guns, that was political violence. When the state infringes on the rights of the citizen, it’s time for political violence. It’s not a one size fits all proposition. Some people love brand names, I relate to ideas.

Keith Smith
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You are lucky nobody thinks you should have your head kicked in for whta you think. you have no credibility supporting antifa and BLM . and you obviously not watching the videos

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You might be right, in that I might not be watching all the videos you post. LOL, no need. I already said I support free speech and protest. What I don’t do, is conflate neo-nazi’s and kkk’ers with people protesting police brutality. But hey, I don’t support terrorism and that’s exactly what those groups are.

Keith Smith
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my point is antifa beat up people who think differently, you perhaps would see that this left right BS is blowing up in everybodies faces. MSM forced to condemn antifa, why wont you?

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I’m not involved with left/right BS and am not a member of those parties. You want to think you’re some kind of enlightened person who doesn’t listen to the MSM? All you’re doing is following the alt-right meme instead. I’m an anarchist I don’t care what media says what, I’m perfectly OK with nazi’s getting their assess kicked anytime, anyplace. As soon as you join a domestic terror organization, you lose the right to whine about your safety.

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Antifa are a domestic terror organisation. Their right to safety should be removed? conversations are not trolling. losing an argument is not trolling, not watching simple videos which disprove your argument that antifa are justified makes you look foolish. Others read this post, others have seen the videos. and i dont do left and right, its a construct which creates a false democracy. And i do read M S M. i understand it, i certainly dont follow the narrative lol

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All out of tr0ll food. This is not a conversation, it’s you blasting alt-right BS and then trying to walk it back and hide behind a free speech argument with some ad-hominem’s tossed in. I’ve made my points, you’ve I guess attempted to make yours, obviously I’m not swayed.

Keith Smith
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look past headlines, your points amounted to calling me a nazi you cretin

Keith Smith
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You want people to apologise for being white because you see some sort of privilege, you are racist to white people if you believe they are all the same and of a certain class. What about white minorities within inner city areas? you racist

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Not sure WTF you’re talking about this time. Go ahead and re-read my posts, I am talking about fucking nazis. Just a quick piece of advice, if your premise is the defense of nazis as some kind of victim class, you’re a fool way out of your depth.

Keith Smith
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free speech mate, just because your offended by what that scum says, doesnt deny their right to free speech. btw antifa stands for Another Name To Identify Failed Abortions

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

this is antifa Since when were 65m Trump suporters all nazis?
you fool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8QLT6tFWU

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

Antifa carry communist flags. they support both anarchy and communism. And are not anti fascists, they are domestic terrorist organisation. They have attacked business’s and targetted business owners, not because of their political views. but because antifa is a george soros funded terrorist organisation.

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Antifa have a history which is often murky. But whether one despises or supports them, one should have a touch with reality. There are hardly any communists to be found in the US and they aren’t part of the Antifa. That is a fact. That they may cooperate in the case of a conflict with neo-Nazis is a different thing, though, again, there were no communists to be found in Charlottesville. It is certainly touching though to see people like you indignant about the Antifa and the imaginary communists, but quite complacent when it comes to neo-Nazis and white supremacists.… Read more »

Keith Smith
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proof?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8QLT6tFWU i am not supporting neo nazi’s i am supporting free speech. Antifa here attacking people who are normal trump supporters. You can stand behind minorities pointing the finger and screaming racist. but that is not an argument you idiot. Supporting somebodies right to free speech does not mean you support that persons views. Can you not understand this? Why do you not denounce political violence? And what will you do when what you are doing suddenly becomes unacceptable and the by default, it becomes acceptable to attack you? proof of these violent neo nazi’s causing destruction everywhere. and i… Read more »

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the support of free speech is not supporting what that speech stands for. I denounce neo nazis, KKK, BLM and Antifa violence. But i do not support people being attacked for voicing political views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bADdJuN-4Ag

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLA4lEtmH2A from people that were there

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This CNN presenter got butt *******d !

Brewerstroupe
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Much of the Vice footage has a staged, scripted look about it, as if it was shot at a different place and time.

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If they chant “Jews will not replace us”, they’re not attacking Jews; they’re not saying they’re going to threat the physical integrity of Jews. And as to physical violence, I haven’t seen any video in which any member of these groups started a fight, quite the contrary: people with bats following, insulting them… clearly trying to provoke them, and without having a permit to protest.

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLA4lEtmH2A plz share this, also posted on this article another video 18 months of alt left violence

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

this was funny.

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ISz3EaM9A M S M LIES ALL THE TIME ABOUT NEO NAZIS. 5 minutes, trying to help people understand who the enemy is.

Keith Smith
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Keith Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bADdJuN-4Ag antifa are internationally stupid

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What about the group Antifa…a home grown American terrorist organization? Camerota’s contempt for truth is appalling. She is such a stupid liberal tunnel visioned fanatic that she is perfect working for CNN.

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New York Times hit piece on Trump and NATO exposes alliance as outdated and obsolete (Video)

The Duran Quick Take: Episode 61.

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RT CrossTalk host Peter Lavelle and The Duran’s Alex Christoforou take a quick look at the New York Times hit piece citing anonymous sources, with information that the U.S. President dared to question NATO’s viability.

Propaganda rag, the NYT, launched its latest presidential smear aimed at discrediting Trump and provoking the establishment, warmonger left into more impeachment – Twenty-fifth Amendment talking points.

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The New York Times scored a serious scoop when it revealed on Monday that President Trump had questioned in governmental conversations—on more than one occasion, apparently—America’s membership in NATO. Unfortunately the paper then slipped into its typical mode of nostrum journalism. My Webster’s New World Dictionary defines “nostrum” as “quack medicine” entailing “exaggerated claims.” Here we had quack journalism executed in behalf of quack diplomacy.

The central exaggerated claim is contained in the first sentence, in which it is averred that NATO had “deterred Soviet and Russian aggression for 70 years.” This is wrong, as can be seen through just a spare amount of history.

True, NATO saved Europe from the menace of Russian Bolshevism. But it did so not over 70 years but over 40 years—from 1949 to 1989. That’s when the Soviet Union had 1.3 million Soviet and client-state troops poised on Western Europe’s doorstep, positioned for an invasion of Europe through the lowlands of Germany’s Fulda Gap.

How was this possible? It was possible because Joseph Stalin had pushed his armies farther and farther into the West as the German Wehrmacht collapsed at the end of World War II. In doing so, and in the process capturing nearly all of Eastern Europe, he ensured that the Soviets had no Western enemies within a thousand miles of Leningrad or within 1,200 miles of Moscow. This vast territory represented not only security for the Russian motherland (which enjoys no natural geographical barriers to deter invasion from the West) but also a potent staging area for an invasion of Western Europe.

The first deterrent against such an invasion, which Stalin would have promulgated had he thought he could get away with it, was America’s nuclear monopoly. By the time that was lost, NATO had emerged as a powerful and very necessary deterrent. The Soviets, concluding that the cost of an invasion was too high, defaulted to a strategy of undermining Western interests anywhere around the world where that was possible. The result was global tensions stirred up at various global trouble spots, most notably Korea and Vietnam.

But Europe was saved, and NATO was the key. It deserves our respect and even reverence for its profound success as a military alliance during a time of serious threat to the West.

But then the threat went away. Gone were the 1.3 million Soviet and client-state troops. Gone was Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. Indeed, gone, by 1991, was the Soviet Union itself, an artificial regime of brutal ideology superimposed upon the cultural entity of Mother Russia. It was a time for celebration.

But it was also a time to contemplate the precise nature of the change that had washed over the world and to ponder what that might mean for old institutions—including NATO, a defensive military alliance created to deter aggression from a menacing enemy to the east. Here’s where Western thinking went awry. Rather than accepting as a great benefit the favorable developments enhancing Western security—the Soviet military retreat, the territorial reversal, the Soviet demise—the West turned NATO into a territorial aggressor of its own, absorbing nations that had been part of the Soviet sphere of control and pushing right up to the Russian border. Now Leningrad (renamed St. Petersburg after the obliteration of the menace of Soviet communism) resides within a hundred miles of NATO military forces, while Moscow is merely 200 miles from Western troops.

Since the end of the Cold War, NATO has absorbed 13 nations, some on the Russian border, others bordering lands that had been part of Russia’s sphere of interest for centuries. This constitutes a policy of encirclement, which no nation can accept without protest or pushback. And if NATO were to absorb those lands of traditional Russian influence—particularly Ukraine and Georgia—that would constitute a major threat to Russian security, as Russian President Vladimir Putin has sought to emphasize to Western leaders for years.

So, no, NATO has not deterred Russian aggression for 70 years. It did so for 40 and has maintained a destabilizing posture toward Russia ever since. The problem here is the West’s inability to perceive how changed geopolitical circumstances might require a changed geopolitical strategy. The encirclement strategy has had plenty of critics—George Kennan before he died; academics John Mearsheimer, Stephen Walt, and Robert David English; former diplomat Jack Matlock; the editors of The Nation. But their voices have tended to get drowned out by the nostrum diplomacy and the nostrum journalism that supports it at every turn.

You can’t drown out Donald Trump because he’s president of the United States. And so he has to be traduced, ridiculed, dismissed, and marginalized. That’s what the Times story, by Julian Barnes and Helene Cooper, sought to do. Consider the lead, designed to emphasize just how outlandish Trump’s musings are before the reader even has a chance to absorb what he may have been thinking: “There are few things that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia desires more than the weakening of NATO, the military alliance among the United States, Europe and Canada that has deterred Soviet and Russian aggression for 70 years.” Translation: “Take that, Mr. President! You’re an idiot.”

Henry Kissinger had something interesting to say about Trump in a recent interview with the Financial Times. “I think Trump may be one of those figures in history,” said the former secretary of state, “who appears from time to time to mark the end of an era and to force it to give up its old pretenses.” One Western pretense about Russia, so ardently enforced by the likes of Julian Barnes and Helene Cooper (who, it may be safe to say, know less about world affairs and their history than Henry Kissinger), is that nothing really changed with the Soviet collapse and NATO had to turn aggressive in order to keep that menacing nation in its place.

Trump clearly doesn’t buy that pretense. He said during the campaign that NATO was obsolete. Then he backtracked, saying he only wanted other NATO members to pay their fair share of the cost of deterrence. He even confessed, after Hillary Clinton identified NATO as “the strongest military alliance in the history of the world,” that he only said NATO was obsolete because he didn’t know much about it. But he was learning—enough, it appears, to support as president Montenegro’s entry into NATO in 2017. Is Montenegro, with 5,332 square miles and some 620,000 citizens, really a crucial element in Europe’s desperate project to protect itself against Putin’s Russia?

We all know that Trump is a crude figure—not just in his disgusting discourse but in his fumbling efforts to execute political decisions. As a politician, he often seems like a doctor attempting to perform open-heart surgery while wearing mittens. His idle musings about leaving NATO are a case in point—an example of a politician who lacks the skill and finesse to nudge the country in necessary new directions.

But Kissinger has a point about the man. America and the world have changed, while the old ways of thinking have not kept pace. The pretenses of the old have blinded the status quo defenders into thinking nothing has changed. Trump, almost alone among contemporary American politicians, is asking questions to which the world needs new answers. NATO, in its current configuration and outlook, is a danger to peace, not a guarantor of it.


Robert W. Merry, longtime Washington journalist and publishing executive, is the author most recently of President McKinley: Architect of the American Century

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Nigel Farage said Friday that he would be willing to wage another “Vote Leave” campaign, even if he needed to use another party as the “vehicle” for his opposition.

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Pro-European MPs from various political parties are pushing back against claims made by Prime Minister Theresa May’s government that a second Brexit referendum – which supporters have branded as a “People’s Vote” on May’s deal – would take roughly 14 months to organize, according to RT.

But while support for a second vote grows, one of the most notorious proponents of the original “Vote Leave” campaign is hinting at a possible return to politics to try and fight the effort.

After abandoning UKIP, the party he helped create, late last year, Nigel Farage said Friday that he would be willing to wage another “Vote Leave” campaign, even if he needed to use another party as the “vehicle” for his opposition. Farage also pointed out that a delay of Brexit Day would likely put it after the European Parliament elections in May.

“I think, I fear that the House of Commons is going to effectively overturn that Brexit. To me, the most likely outcome of all of this is an extension of Article 50. There could be another referendum,” he told Sky News.

According to official government guidance shown to lawmakers on Wednesday, which was subsequently leaked to the Telegraph, as May tries to head off a push by ministers who see a second referendum as the best viable alternative to May’s deal – a position that’s becoming increasingly popular with Labour Party MPs.

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The 14 month estimate is how long May and her government expect it would take to pass the primary legislation calling for the referendum (seven months), conduct the question testing with the election committee (12 weeks), pass secondary legislation (six weeks) and conduct the campaigns (16 weeks).

May has repeatedly insisted that a second referendum wouldn’t be feasible because it would require a lengthy delay of Brexit Day, and because it would set a dangerous precedent that wouldn’t offer any more clarity (if some MPs are unhappy with the outcome, couldn’t they just push for a third referendum?). A spokesperson for No. 10 Downing Street said the guidance was produced purely for the purpose of “illustrative discussion” and that the government continued to oppose another vote.

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Former Tory Attorney General and pro-remainer MP Dominic Grieve blasted May’s timetable as wrong and said that the government “must be aware of it themselves,” while former Justice Minister Dr Phillip Lee, who resigned his cabinet seat in June over May’s Brexit policy, denounced her warning as “nonsense.”

As May pieces together her revised deal, more MPs are urging her to drop her infamous “red lines” (Labour in particular would like to see the UK remain part of the Customs Union), but with no clear alternative to May’s plan emerging, a delay of Brexit Day is looking like a virtual certainty.

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Via Paul Craig Roberts…


Years before Edward Snowden provided documented proof that the National Security Agency was really a national insecurity agency as it was violating law and the US Constitution and spying indiscriminately on American citizens, William Binney, who designed and developed the NSA spy program revealed the illegal and unconstitutional spying. Binney turned whistleblower, because NSA was using the program to spy on Americans. As Binney was well known to the US Congress, he did not think he needed any NSA document to make his case. But what he found out was “Congress would never hear me because then they’d lose plausible deniability. That was really their key. They needed to have plausible deniability so they can continue this massive spying program because it gave them power over everybody in the world. Even the members of Congress had power against others [in Congress]; they had power on judges on the Supreme Court, the federal judges, all of them. That’s why they’re so afraid. Everybody’s afraid because all this data that’s about them, the central agencies — the intelligence agencies — they have it. And that’s why Senator Schumer warned President Trump earlier, a few months ago, that he shouldn’t attack the intelligence community because they’ve got six ways to Sunday to come at you. That’s because it’s like J. Edgar Hoover on super steroids. . . . it’s leverage against every member of parliament and every government in the world.”

To prevent whistle-blowing, NSA has “a program now called ‘see something, say something’ about your fellow workers. That’s what the Stasi did. That’s why I call [NSA] the new New Stasi Agency. They’re picking up all the techniques from the Stasi and the KGB and the Gestapo and the SS. They just aren’t getting violent yet that we know of — internally in the US, outside is another story.”

As Binney had no documents to give to the media, blowing the whistle had no consequence for NSA. This is the reason that Snowden released the documents that proved NSA to be violating both law and the Constitution, but the corrupt US media focused blame on Snowden as a “traitor” and not on NSA for its violations.

Whistleblowers are protected by federal law. Regardless, the corrupt US government tried to prosecute Binney for speaking out, but as he had taken no classified document, a case could not be fabricated against him.

Binney blames the NSA’s law-breaking on Dick “Darth” Cheney. He says NSA’s violations of law and Constitution are so extreme that they would have to have been cleared at the top of the government.

Binney describes the spy network, explains that it was supposed to operate only against foreign enemies, and that using it for universal spying so overloads the system with data that the system fails to discover many terrorist activities. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50932.htm

Apparently, the National Security Agency values being able to blackmail citizens and members of government at home and abroad more than preventing terrorist attacks.

Unfortunately for Americans, there are many Americans who blindly trust the government and provide the means, the misuse of which is used to enslave us. A large percentage of the work in science and technology serves not to free people but to enslave them. By now there is no excuse for scientists and engineers not to know this. Yet they persist in their construction of the means to destroy liberty.

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