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BREAKING: Russia responds to new US sanctions, vows to retaliate

Russia has been targeted for alleged interference in the 2016 US presidential election, an allegation that Russia denies and which has not been backed by any convincing public evidence.

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A new bill introduced by US legislators seeks to impose new economic sanctions against Russia, including North Korea and Iran. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs expects the bill to become law, pending approval from US President Donald Trump.

The US House of Representatives approved a sanctions bill by a vote of 419-3 on Tuesday a new version of a bill that would impose sweeping sanctions on Russia, Iran and North Korea, and limit President Donald Trump’s ability to lift the restrictions on Moscow. The measures target Russia’s defense, intelligence, mining, shipping and railway industries, and restrict dealings with Russian banks and energy companies.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister, Sergey Ryabkov, warned if the new anti-Russian sanctions bill is to be approved, retaliatory measures will be imposed by Moscow.

Ryabkov told the media Wednesday, “What is happening defies common sense. The authors and sponsors of this bill are taking a very serious step towards destroying any potential for normalizing relations with Russia.” He added, “We told them [US] dozens of times that such actions would not be left without a response. I believe the signal went through even though present-day Washington tends to listen to and hear from no one but itself.”

Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov told journalists:

“It can be said now that the news is very sad from the perspective of Russian-American relations and the perspectives of their development,” “This is no less disheartening from the point of view of international law and international trade relations.”

“The attitude to this [law] will be formed on the basis of a thorough analysis, and the decision [on how to respond] will certainly be taken by the head of state, President [Vladimir] Putin.”

“The Russian president makes foreign policy decisions, and we will inform you if and when they are adopted. All other statements are quite understandable. We are talking about extremely unfriendly manifestations, so the reaction is obvious.”

The new round of anti-Russian sanctions by Washington is “equally dreadful from the point of view of international law and international trade relations,” Peskov added.

France and Germany have so far spoken out against the bill that the US House passed overwhelmingly on Tuesday as one that adversely affects European industries while advancing US commercial interests.

“This is concerning not only for the German industry. Sanctions against Russia should not become a tool of industrial policy in the US interests,” German Foreign Minister spokesman Martin Schaefer said at a press briefing.

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The US bill also sparked concern in Europe, with European governments and business leaders fearing the sanctions would hurt crucial joint energy projects with Russia and may be motivated by Washington’s desire to take over the European natural gas market from Russia in favor of American liquefied natural gas (LNG).

The Duran’s Alexander Mercouris recently analyzed the potential impact of the new sanctions against Russia:

“The new sanctions package will not have the big impact on the Russian economy that some are expecting. The Russian economy has sailed through the previous far more severe sectoral sanctions which were imposed on Russia in July 2014, and the collapse in oil prices which took place in the second half of that year. The result was only a short and shallow recession, out of which Russia is now rapidly emerging. Indeed there are some who calculate that growth this year will be enough by itself to wipe out all the output loss during the recession, though I do not share this view.

The new sanctions in economic terms do not add significantly to the sanctions which were imposed in 2014. They appear intended to target the personal assets of super-wealthy Russians – a deeply unpopular class still wrongly referred to as “oligarchs”, though the days of their power in Russia are long gone – and to impede Western and specifically US participation and investment in certain of Russia’s industries, first and foremost those in the extractive sector.”

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Stop bitching, mourning and witching (BMW) about how unfair it is… bla-bla… and do something about it… The EU countries BMW only when it concerns them… Why the hell you need anything from Siemens? Stand up and work on your own products… I long expected this attack on Russia, just never knew when it was going to happen…

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Now, instead of buying from Siemens, Russia will compete with it. When will the German people grasp the glaringly obvious fact that their political “leaders” don’t work for them, but for Washington? ‘Sanctions are contrary to Europe’s interests. Nevertheless European governments accommodated Washington’s agenda. The reason was explained to me several decades ago by my Ph.D. dissertation committee chairman who became Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs. I had the opportunity to ask him how Washington managed to have foreign governments act in Washington’s interest rather than in the interest of their own countries. He said, “money.” I… Read more »

John Mason
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Nicely put Tom. Answer to your last phrase would be if a global war broke out and those responsible are sought out and executed, no trial. Something like the Russians did to their royal family.

Guy
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Guy

You mean the Bolsheviks did to their Royal Family ,the Romanovs.

Kaput
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Kaput

lol

Tahau Taua
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Tahau Taua

Fuck the Royal Family! You should be saying, “what the Romanovs did to the millions of peasants and workers who perished for the sake of the Romanovs in World Imperialist War One, prior to 1917?” Or maybe even the undisclosed numbers who died in the Czar’s centuries old Gulag system and at the hands of his Secret Police, long before Stalin revised it. Take that and chew on it creep!

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The Bolsheviks were Russians and at that time immensely more popular than the Romanovs. Not that the execution was justified, even in the grim conditions of a civil war. After all, the Imperial family, precisely due to its unpopularity, was not a threat. On the contrary, the monarchists were a liability for the Whites.

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“You should be saying, “what the Romanovs did to the millions of peasants
and workers who perished for the sake of the Romanovs in World
Imperialist War One, prior to 1917?” I agree with Thau Taua?

Vera Gottlieb
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Vera Gottlieb

But this would be a global war of entirely different dimensions.

Kaput
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Kaput

the bolsheviks were funded by the zionists…………… the french rev. was funded by zionists, even marx was an illuminati……….. sherbert……… then there is the 5th column, that traitor mevdev……………… a yankee underdog………….. PUTIN IS NO SUPERMAN ………. THAT ONLY HAPPENS I DISNEYS FILMS………… walt disney was a illuminati scoundrel………….. library is closed for today.

Tahau Taua
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Tahau Taua

So according to your logic, every time people want to free themselves from a bunch of fuck’n halfwits; the Zionists are always there to give them money? Mason, go back to Disneyland!

ghartwell
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‘When will the German people grasp the glaringly obvious fact that their political “leaders” don’t work for them’ reminds me of the German generals realizing that Hitler was destroying Germany. Few would agree with my thesis that he was an agent of the elite doing his job well and staying under cover. (As was Borman in this theory). So it is obviously happening again. The German people have been whipped into submission so they can be submissively destroyed.

Kaput
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Kaput

never mate………….. these people will die confortably, reagen- alzheimer, macdog- brain cancer, jamie dimon–prostate cancer——— elizabeth will fall off her horse, trump will be murdered, ad china will take over…… ahahha they can die by the millions , but the middle kingdom will never die.

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tom
“…Now, instead of buying from Siemens, Russia will compete with it…”

That is very doubtful.

Putin has squandered many years 2000 to 2017 of proper management and development of Russian industry which has resulted in its decline.

Example:
Motor Manufacturing
Civilian Aircraft Manufacturing
Electricity Generating Turbines
Railway Engines and Carriages
Etc.

Even the Electricity Generating Turbines are made in Russia under Siemens patents and licences as are Railway Engines and Carriages.

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I guess you are using old data to prop up your arguments against Russia because you certainly havent seen or bothered to read the latest news: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/study-russia-insulated-further-sanctions-import-substitution-success/ri20491

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Gonzogal Thank you, already know the RI article, LoL:))) I had been doing Pro Mr Putin, Pro Russia propaganda for many years until March 2017 and have all the latest info to hand. RI is just running a spin to give comfort to its readers like the Duran is doing in this article. I can challenge all the RI spin but at present don’t have the time. Just an example: Goods and Services Russia produces internally are in Roubles not US$s. Whilst the Kosher Oligarch cabal Putin has assembled around him have a voracious appetite for US$s causing approx 30%… Read more »

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Okay—-if we know the American corporations are holding tons of money offshore—-and 30 to 40% of Russia is being siphoned off—what is being done with all this money if its not “working”in any country?

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manfred127
You have asked a very good question.

Its a mystery why people siphon of US$ Billions into offshore places.

Its better to put the money to use building hospitals, clinics, schools, colleges, homes, infrastructure, farming, etc.

Those people must have high Neanderthals DNA to ignore the plight of mankind in the world today.

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tom

“Sanctions against Russia should not become a tool of industrial policy in the US interests…”

Ha ha, very funny. As if they had ever been anything else – and as if he didn’t know that perfectly well. Dishonest reptiles.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)
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VeeNarian (Yerevan)

If the Russians do not respond in kind then I will suspect they have given up on their independence. God help us! When will the Russians realise that they are NOT wanted by the west? Not now and not ever!
Except as a slave state, of course!

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spoint

Jews did this so retaliate against the right target.

ghartwell
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Jews destroying Germany again?

Kaput
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Kaput

Hitler was a roths descendent, merkel is probably his daughter……… germans are pro zionists, just like Churchil, and many others were………. until someone came knocking…….. elizabeth is german, her husband is german, just do soe search about european royalty……….. even clinton is a cousin of a cousin of a cousin……….. bad blood is abundant.

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Actually, Vee, many of us who helped Trump in his election considered his promise to warm relations with Russia to be a very important part of his mission. The 62,000,000 voters who elected him have deep respect for Russia and consider Russian people to be similar to us in culture and values. We haven’t given up hope that our nations will come together. It just may take longer than hoped. There’s a lot of ugly politics going on here now. We need to defeat it before anything good can happen. Also, keep in mind that the sanctions bill is illegal… Read more »

VeeNarian (Yerevan)
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VeeNarian (Yerevan)

Just five in the House and Senate voted against this bill. That is an amazing display of pure ignorance and power. As a British Indian, I do not have a dog in this fight. But it is time for the EU to stand up to this war lobby and teach them a few things.
Russia will go from strength to strength but EU will suffer.
Did you know that Russian is a bigger exporter of wheat than the US or Canada? Things have sure changed from Soviet times, but it has escaped the US attention.

Kaput
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Kaput

I am a citizen of the EU, and the sooner it is dismantled the better………. ahahah a nwo organisation

dave3200
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dave3200

Vee, I agree 100%. Unfortunately, the false propaganda machine from the U.S. deep state and military-industrial complex has sold the congress (and Trump?) a terrible bill of goods. The strength of the ignorance is outweighed only by the stench of the swamp.

Kaput
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Kaput

sorry you sound either ignorant or derranged……….. no offense meant…………. revenge is better served in a cold plate……..

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VeeNarian (Yerevan)
You have hurled abuse or let’s say “harsh words” when reality has been presented to you.

Putin has already made Russia into a slave state.

Reality:
Putin’s Modus Operandi, operating style which is:
Do nothing
Do it very slowly
Do the minimum
Wait and see what happens

In the past this type of MO has resulted in:

1. 1917 Russian Empire, looted and plundered by the Khazars

2. 1917 – 1991 USSR, looted and plundered by the Khazars

3. 1992 – 2005 Russian Federation, looted and plundered by the Khazars approved by Yelsin

4. 2005 – 2017 Russian Federation, still looted and plundered by the Khazars approved by Putin

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Trump can not be trusted, he will approve of the Bill or the establishment will. A President stands for those that elected him/her but Trump has failed whether deliberately or otherwise to endorse the policies that he was elected on. Trump is either a very weak individual or is a part of the swamp or both. US trying to force Russia into a corner are making a big mistake, Russia will respond and there are many nations that have an axe to grind with the US.

Vtran
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Vtran

Expel all U$ Americans /pro U$ Americans from RF or RF associated Country’s

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Vtran
Are you practicing your script for a late night comedy show, LoL:)))
The RF associated countries are typically Iran, Cuba, North Korea, etc.

Vtran
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What of country’s of the BRICS, BRICS alliance, SCO, EEU …..

I appreciate none of those country’s are of the West … the 30 -40 odd country’s that think they are the World, International Community where in Fact they are just 30 – 40 country’s out of 220 Country’s of the World

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Vtran Very good answer but am surprised you do not know the power behind the BRICS Project which was created by Jim O’Neill for Goldman Sachs, Rothschild Group & Associates in the background. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8900851/Jim-ONeill-Welcome-to-a-future-built-in-BRICs.html Goldman Sachs, Rothschild Group and Associates, foster, guide and control the economies of BRICS+A (Argentina) countries. The BRICS+A are economically tied and dependent on the US, UK, EU, Canada, Australia, NZ for trade which is conducted in US$s. Excluding you, many Russians love the US$s. Brazil, India China, South Africa, Argentina love making US$s. SCO countries are primarily independant Militaries and a talking shop who carry… Read more »

Vtran
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Vtran

The BRIC or something similar word was bounded around a long time ago … however the BRICS of today is a different beast

The BRICS are not tied to the U$ American Dollar … however Do appreciate the vassal states that U$ Americans called fiends are … U$ americans have no friends !

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Vtran
Non US$ Trading by BRICS countries is priced in US$ and hedged against the US$.

There is one BRICS, BRICS old is the same as BRICS new, its economies are fostered, guided and controlled by Goldman Sachs and Rothschild Group and Associates.

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Vtran

BRICS / BRICS Associated country’s use all currency denominations … U$ america dollar is there …. but decreases daily !

However do not Fret, UK, Australia, Canada etc will still use U$ American Dollar until destruction

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Vtran Clinging to BRICS hope whilst neglecting Putin’s stupidity is not wise. The US economy including the US$ is declining slowly at approx 1% to 2% per year, so it could take until 2030 to 2040 before the decline is serious. In the meantime the Khazar people are steps ahead and have taken control from the Baltic to the Black Sea, Poland and Ukraine, the “Land Wall” between Russia and Western Europe. These people will destroy the Russian Federation economically as well as loot and plunder it. They have already done it and continue to do it. 1. 1917 –… Read more »

Vtran
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Vtran

Glad where ever you come from is so much better than the RF / Putin !

RF / Putin are no where near perfect … but wherever you are it must be Utopia … so off you go and enjoy it …

Eggie Offo
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Eggie Offo

Oh dear Russia powerful nuclear superpower a country I admire what are you doing in the face of all these sanctions? Just talk, talk ,talk and nothing. Mr. Putin the smartest and the most intelligent head of state amomg among all world leaders but I think he is also timid. What is Russia doing, just talk,talk and nothing done. I have heard the same Russian Deputy Foreign Minister, Sergey Ryabkov talking, warning and nothing happens.Two weeks ago the same man warned “we shall retaliate ” and respond after America expelled 35 diplomats and seized Russia’s diplomatic property violating international law… Read more »

ghartwell
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I agree why is Russian revenge so slow and so sure?

Kaput
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Kaput

revenge ………. got the wrong country mate………………… smart efffective retaliation no doubt……. coming soon in a nearby wall street theater.

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Peter Hallam

Revenge is slow; and Russia is taking it’s time, because this is a job Russia can leave to Europe. Europe is the one being threatened by this. Not really Russia. Russia will use this as an opportunity to diversify it’s economy some more. Other countries that are under U$ sanctions will see what is going on an say: “They did this to me as well. We have something in common.” The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Russia has been nice for a long time. Many in Europe; despite the what the MSM say, already know this. Many in… Read more »

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Mistaron

Since when have we been privy to the fight going on BEHIND the curtain? What should Putin do, start a war with no winners? US is going down with self-inflicted wounds being recognised by more and more interests. When we hear from world leaders, identifying Washington’s lackeys becomes quite obvious as they speak for themselves and not the people. It’s taken a while, but some of these ‘leaders’ are beginning to see the writing on the wall and are quickly becoming aware that we, the people, have caught on and that the electoral carte-blanche once enjoyed, is about to be… Read more »

Kaput
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Kaput

does Putin sound worried ??????? Does Putin need the yankees ????????? who cares about a “sandwich ” country ????? a squeeze from canada, another from mexico, the pacific, the atlantic….. not to mention the big dragon squeeze lol………. dollar toilet paper ????? aahha I just love this guy….. patience is a virtue………. the one who laughs last, is the one that laughs better……. by the way stop providing those gadgets to get yankees back home from the moon lol. it seems that the yankees are placing sanctions in their own turf……….. , reminds me of Napoleon, the higher you go,… Read more »

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I too try to read such tea leaves as I can.I think I see more of a chess player than a timid plodder.The west is mired in debt which is not sustainable.In the past the west had primacy in technology and production and ceded that to what is more or less known as “globalism” to manage international capital flow as a primary objective.A very dangerous time for all.

Kaput
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Kaput

dnt take more crack……….. is damaging your 2 heads.

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Eggie Offo
No way Putin will do more than talk, talk, talk.
Putin will ask Lavrov to write a letter of complaint to the UN, LoL:)))

Silviu Costea
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Silviu Costea

Tell me the last war USA won? I really cannot remember. In the recent history, the russians where they fought, they won: Georgia, Ukraine, Syria… In fact your leaders are always barking like a stupid dog, but they were so fucked by the Russians. You lost the Near East… You lost Qatar, Turkey… Your old “allies” goes on the oppposite side. Funny, isnt? They can see very clear, at least clearest than you.

Vera Gottlieb
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Vera Gottlieb

And as long as the US continues to have domestic problems, this hacking story won’t go away and serves to distract Americans.

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The Russian administration will retaliate .For those of us that have lost patience ,I would just state that it is not the Russian way to jump to retaliation without having thought through the next move . Remember ,this geopolitical game that is being played for all the world to see ,is much like a game of chess .The actions of the US , totally compromised congress critters and senators , is much like a thrashing beast and acting out of self preservation as it knows the final act is in play . They are losing their imperialist power and they… Read more »

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Thats good news for Russia as these sanctions are really beating the European Dog, which is being pushed into a corner by the US. Look out when that Dog feels it has no place to go and decides to come out of that corner. Russia only has to wait. However while waiting patiently Russia should ban all EU and American Oil companies from doing or owning any business in Russia. That smack in the head would get the attention of even the thickest American legislators.

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gbardizbanian

I’m sick and tired reading about these sanctions taken by the US. Why doesn’t anybody take sanctions against the US?

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Like who ?

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Hell YES! So long over due! @ MORE. Every country in the world that has felt the U$’s or NATO’s boot should put some form of sanctions on the U$. At least 158 countries around the world have been targeted by the U$ for something or other; mostly regime change or an economic hit job. Even Australia has been subject to the U$’s desire for regime change. Some ally huh. For those interested: Look up something called The Dismissal. And read up on what happened to Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam and Governor General Sir William Kerr. That was a… Read more »

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Headline:
“…BREAKING: Russia responds to new US sanctions, vows to retaliate….”

Yeah like what?

Oh yes, like Putin’s well known masterstroke, he will ask Lavrov to write a letter of complaint to the UN, LoL:)))

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Michael DeStefano

You’re an extremely silly and supercilious individual.

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Michael DeStefano
Not at all as you have failed to provide any counter opinion because you cannot face reality.

Reality:
Putin’s Modus Operandi, operating style which is:
Do nothing
Do it very slowly
Do the minimum
Wait and see what happens

gatobart
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gatobart

We Will Retaliate.

I have heard that Putin tune so many times already I dont believe a word of it by now.

Isabella Jones
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Isabella Jones

We should remember Putin’s reply to the person who wanted to know why Russia hadn’t responded to US sanctions by, for example, stopping supplying them with rocket engines? He said “we never do anything stupid. They are a good source of income to us – why should we deprive ourselves of that”.
Remember there’s an old saying “Russians take a long time to saddle up – but they ride exceeding fast”.

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Sure keep getting the good money Putin while the opponent try to kill you with the help of those satellites that they put in orbit using your cheap but efficient technology.

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Hacking is cited by the Obama Regime and by our beloved media as the cause for Mrs.Clinton’s loss to President-elect Trump. It’s as if the voters had no say in the matter, when the reality is that–had Mrs. Clinton been elected instead of Trump–we would have had one lyin sack o ____ replacing the current one.

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samo war

puttin = addolff hi$tler ?

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Russia under Putin has made great strides, but the so-called grand master still operates under the rules set by the ancient European Elite, whose front men are the likes of the Rothschild, Rockefeller and other such sundry human slave-masters. Nato is but their military arm, The city of Lodnon and Wall street their economic control centers, the IMF and World Bank their financial outlets of false legitimacy. Unless and until Putin and Russia follow the economic policies of Sergey Glazeyev, and nationalize the presently Western Central Bankers controlled Russian Central Bank, then he effectively maintains Russia’s subservience/servitude to Russia’s ancient… Read more »

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The Duran – News in Review – Episode 135.

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Fusion GPS researcher Nellie Ohr and ex-FBI official James Baker are set to testify before Congress, but Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson is taking the Fifth.

The man at the center of the Russiagate hoax, Glenn Simpson, headed the espionage/PR smear firm Fusion GPS, which ordered the discredited and fake Trump ‘dossier’, which John McCain handed to the FBI, and which Buzzfeed News published as actual news.

Simpson has a lot of explaining to do, and now appears trapped in his “under oath” lies.

Simpson had previously testified under oath to the House Intelligence Committee that he never met with DOJ official Bruce Ohr, husband to Fusion GPS researcher Nellie Ohr.

Simpson also stated under oath that he never discussed with Bruce Ohr the Steele dossier prior to the October FISA application, which was used to spy on Carter Page and kick off the ‘Russiagate hoax’.

The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and Editor-in-Chief Alexander Mercouris discuss the legal jeopardy entangling Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson. Republicans are close to breaking the ‘Russiagate hoax’ wide open, but Simpson is betting on delay tactics, and a subsequent Democrat midterm House victory, to save his ass from prosecution, and bury his involvement in a brazen attempt to discredit and remove an elected US President.

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According to Zerohedge, Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson may be in “real legal jeopardy” over inconsistent testimony given to Congress regarding his involvement in a massive counterintelligence effort against then-candidate Donald Trump, including the infamous Steele dossier.

Speaking with Fox News Maria Bartiromo, John Ratcliffe (R-TX) said…

“I’m not surprised that Glenn Simpson is taking the Fifth.”

“He probably should. He’s in real legal jeopardy. Very clearly someone is not telling the truth.”

Via The Daily Caller… 

Simpson, who investigated the Trump campaign on behalf of the DNC and Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, informed Congress on Thursday that he will plead the Fifth to avoid speaking with members of the House Judiciary and House Oversight & Government Committee in an interview set for Tuesday.

“The reason for that … is that Glenn Simpson had previously testified under oath to the House Intelligence Committee that he never met with Bruce Ohr or discussed with Bruce Ohr the Steele dossier prior to the October FISA application in 2016 or the 2016 presidential election,” said Ratcliffe, a member of the House Judiciary panel.

Via Fox News ‘Sunday Morning Futures’

Via Zerohedge

Ohr told the Judiciary and Oversight & Government Reform Committees in an August 28 interview that he met with Simpson in August and December of 2016 to discuss Fusion GPS’s opposition research into Donald Trump.

Bruce’s wife, Nellie Ohr, was hired by Fusion GPS for the anti-Trump effort at the time.

Simpson, however, told a different story to the House Intelligence Committee on November 14, 2017, when he said that he hadn’t been in contact with anyone from the DOJ or FBI until after the election. While he did acknowledge meeting with Bruce Ohr (meetings which would result in Ohr’s demotion), Simpson never disclosed his wife’s employment.

“Ohr, who has been demoted twice since December, was also in frequent contact with Christopher Steele, the author of the infamous anti-Trump dossier. Steele, a former British spy, was hired by Fusion GPS in June 2016 to investigate the Trump campaign’s possible links to the Kremlin.

Steele met with the Ohrs on July 30, 2016, a day before the FBI opened its counterintelligence investigation into the Trump team. Ohr met just after with FBI deputy Director Andrew McCabe.” – Daily Caller

Following the 2016 election, Steel and Ohr met over a dozen times, despite the FBI having blacklisted Steele for improper media disclosures concerning his work.

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Fox News ran an opinion piece written by Douglas E. Schoen early Sunday. It points out how radicalized the Democrat Party has become, and it is noteworthy because Douglas Schoen is a Democrat himself. He writes (emphasis added):

As Democrats campaign for the Nov. 6 midterm elections, they have plenty of legitimate criticisms to level at President Trump and Republicans who control the House and Senate. But Democrats were hurt in recent days by amazing and disgusting comments made by Hillary Clinton and former Attorney General Eric Holder.

As a Democrat, I want my party to win as many seats as possible in the House and Senate and to capture as many governorships and other state offices as it can. But the Clinton and Holder remarks do not advance that effort – they hurt it.

Former Secretary of State and 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Clinton said Tuesday that “you cannot be civil with” the Republican Party because it “wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.” She added that “if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again.”

But even worse than Clinton’s comments were those of Eric Holder, who said at a recent campaign event in Georgia that Democrats should abandon the advice of former first lady Michelle Obama, who said at the 2016 Democratic National Convention that her party and mine should respond positively to negative attacks from the GOP.

Mrs. Obama said that “when someone is cruel or acts like a bully, you don’t stoop to their level. No, our motto is, when they go low, we go high.”

Holder argued just the opposite, saying: “When they go low, we kick them. That’s what this new Democratic Party is about.” He later said he wasn’t advocating violence – not literal kicking.

I beg to differ with both Clinton and Holder.

The only way the Democrats can regain the majority in either or both houses of Congress is by being civil, and pointing out the differences between Democrats and Republicans on the issues.

This is the real issue that should govern elections. Rather than the politics of popularity, one needs to consider policy points and which side offers points that are actually achievable, believable, concrete, desirable and specific. Calling President Trump and his administration names does not offer any constructive dialogue on policy matters.

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Conservatives and Trump supporters know this and it is precisely because of this that Donald Trump won the White House.

While the mainstream media (and here we can include Fox News largely) tried every possible way to ridicule Donald Trump’s candidacy, the people that actually listened to what he had to say found him very impressive on policy as much as his ability to speak as the voice of the people. The recent hysteria around Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination and confirmation to the Supreme Court was hysteria up front, driven by real policy fears from the deep core of liberals, as they know that this Justice is likely to form an effective wall against liberals ramming their agenda through the courts since their efforts fail legislatively so often.

Mr. Schoen continues:

As a centrist Democrat, the issue that strikes me most is the degree to which the national debt and the deficit are now out of control.

America faces uncertain and unstable times financially. Yet we are seeing a Republican-controlled Congress that has largely failed to do anything besides provide tax cuts for major corporations and the wealthiest individuals. This is by no means certain to have fundamentally altered the path of the economy or to provide economic growth.

Put another way, what the Trump administration has failed to do is to fix health care and cover pre-existing conditions more fundamentally; lead America in a fiscally responsible way; and pass tax cuts that help the average American. The Trump tax cuts have driven up the national debt and endangered funding for programs that benefit millions of people in our country.

So, here are policy points. Now we can begin to have a debate. Is Mr. Schoen right, or wrong in his information? This is far different than name-calling!

Democrats have long argued the need for a centrist agenda that focuses on:

  • Providing health-care benefits – whether private or public – to all Americans to cover expansively all pre-existing conditions.
  • Protecting the environment from the policies of the Trump administration that have only encouraged –and I dare say exacerbated – environmental degradation and climate change.
  • Promoting a pro-growth, inclusive agenda that seeks to put working people first, and the interests of Washington insiders and economic elites second. President Trump claims that he is doing this – he calls it “draining the swamp” – but this has not happened.

There is no justification for the angry rhetoric of Clinton and Holder, which only feeds into Republican claims that Democrats are an angry mob that can’t get over Clinton’s loss to Trump two years ago.

And Holder looks particularly bad because he was once the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, yet now sounds like he is effectively advocating what appears to be either illegal activities, or metaphorical initiatives that run counter to our traditions and our politics.

Hillary Clinton has said she won’t run for office again, but Holder has said he may run for president in 2020. Whoever the Democratic candidate turns out to be needs to be a responsible and respectable opponent – not one who calls for kicking the GOP or for incivility.

We should have learned from the Senate confirmation hearing for now-Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh that resisting for the sake of resisting doesn’t work. In fact, Democratic attacks on Kavanaugh may well have backfired, recent polls show.

The Democratic Party itself is lost now, without a message, a direction, a strategy, or agenda to confront a Republican Party that is seen as in many ways as having let the American people down.

We need change – but it must be constructive change. This Democrat believes that the comments that Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton made are wrong, counterproductive, and deserve to be rejected by the leadership of the Democratic Party.

Perhaps Fox News ran this opinion piece because Douglas Schoen is the first rational Democrat contributor to say anything in some time. However, it also appears that Mr. Schoen is a minority in his own party. It is a greatly logical approach to argue policy, as he has and as anyone who really understands American government should. But it is unclear as to whether the bulk of the Democrat Party even has reasonable people remaining.

If they do, it may well be that they are being betrayed by their party’s increasingly leftist and radical positions. The Party apparatus seems focused, but it also seems to have left people like Mr. Schoen behind.

Who knows? Maybe that will bring them into the Trump camp.

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Patriarch Bartholomew lifts anathemas on schismatics in Ukraine (VIDEO)

Most of the Orthodox world is in strong opposition to this move by Patriarch Bartholomew, whose motivations seem not to be of Christ.

Seraphim Hanisch

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The biggest news in the Eastern Orthodox world in recent times occurred on Thursday, October 11, 2018. The Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew I, lifted the anathemas against two schismatic Ukrainian Churches and their leaders, paving the way to the creation of a fully independent Ukrainian national Orthodox Church.

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This announcement was given in English and is shown here in video with the textual transcript following:

“Presided by His All Holiness the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, the Holy and Sacred Synod convened for its regular session from October 9 to 11, 2018 in order to examine and discuss items on its agenda. The Holy Synod discussed in particular and at length, the ecclesiastical mater of Ukraine in the presence of His Excellency Archbishop Daniel of Pamphilon and His Grace Bishp Ilarion of Edmonon, Patriarchal Exarchs to Ukraine, and following extensive deliberations decreed (emphasis added):

First, to renew the decision already made, that the Ecumenical Patriarchate proceed to the granting of autocephaly to the Church of Ukraine;

Second, to re-establish at this moment the stavropegion of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in Kiev—one of its many starvorpegion in Ukraine that existed there always;

Third, to accept and review the petitions of appeal of Philaret Denisenko and Makary Maletich and their followers who found themselves in schism not for dogmatic reasons, in accordance with the canonical prerogatives of the Patriarchate of Constantinople to receive such petitions by hierarchs and other clergy of all the autocephalous Churches. Thus, the above mentioned have been canonically reinstated to their hierarchical or priestly rank, and their faithful have been restored to communion with the Church;

Fourth, to revoke the legal binding of the Synodal letter of the year 1686, issued for the circumstances of that time, which granted the right through economia to the Patriarch of Moscow to ordain the Metropolitan of Kiev elected by the clergy-laity assembly of his eparchy, who would commemorate the Ecumenical Patriarch as the first hierarch at any celebration, proclaiming and affirming his canonical dependence to the Mother Church of Constantinople;

Fifth, to appeal to all sides involved that they avoid appropriation of churches, monasteries, and other properties as well as every other act of violence and retaliation so that he peace and love of Christ may prevail.”

There are a few things that must be said about what this declaration is not before we get to the matter of what the points of actually are. The point of reference is the strict letter of the text above itself.

  • This is not a granting of autocephaly (full independent self-rule status) like the fourteen universally canonical Orthodox jurisdictions in the world. However, it is a huge step towards this status.
  • As far as Constantinople is concerned, Filaret Denisenko, the leader and “Patriarch” of the “Kyiv Patriarchate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church” and Makary, the “Metropolitan” of the “Ukrainian Orthodox Autocephalous Church”, and all their faithful are now restored to communion. The statement says that this applies to “The Church” which may be trying to state that these two men (and all the faithful that they lead), are now in communion with the entirety of canonical Orthodoxy, but more likely, this may be a carefully worded statement to say they now are in communion with Constantinople alone.
  • There is an official call for the cessation of the violence directed against the Moscow Patriarchate parishes and communities, who are the only canonically recognized Orthodox Church in Ukraine, and who are also the largest by far in that country. The Kyiv Patriarchate and Uniate (Roman oriented) Greek Catholics in Ukraine have gone on record for seizing MP church properties, often by force, with neo-Nazi sympathizers and other radical Ukrainian nationalists. So this official call to cease the violence is now a matter of public record.

However, the reaction has been far less civil than the clergy wished for.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko: “Expressing his view of the Moscow Patriarchate, Poroshenko added, “This is a great victory of the God-loving Ukrainian people over the Moscow demons, the victory of Good over Evil, the victory of Light over Darkness.”’

Perhaps this is the reason Metropolitan Onuphry of Ukraine (exarch under the Moscow Patriarchate) has been labeled an enemy of Ukraine and is now receiving death threats. Very civil.

Poroshenko’s statement is all the more bizarre, considering that it has been Ukrainian ultra-nationalists that have been violently attacking Moscow – related parishes in Ukraine. This has been corroborated by news sources eager to pin the blame on Russia, such as the U.K. Guardian.

The Union of Orthodox Journalists, based in Kiev and supportive of the Moscow Patriarchate, has been under intense cyber attack since October 11th, when the EP’s announcement was issued.

Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) Chancellor, Metropolitan Anthony of Boryspil and Brovary: “What happened at the Synod in Istanbul yesterday shocked the entire Orthodox world. It seems the Patriarchate of Constantinople is consciously embarking on a path of schism in world Orthodoxy. Patriarch Bartholomew ignored the calls of the Local Churches to convene a meeting of the primates to work out a common and conciliar solution to the Ukrainian Church issue and unilaterally made very serious but erroneous decisions. I hope the Orthodox world will give this action an objective evaluation… Having received the schismatics into communion, Patriarch Bartholomew did not make them canonical, but has himself embarked on the path of schism. The schismatics remain schismatics. They did not receive any autocephaly or tomos. It seems they have lost even that independence, although non-canonical, that they had and which they always emphasized.”

Metropolitan Rostislav of the Czech Lands and Slovakia:“The Orthodox world recognizes the only canonical primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church—His Beatitude Metropolitan Onuphry of Kiev and All Ukraine. This fact was repeatedly mentioned and confirmed by the primate of the Great Church of Christ His Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew on behalf of all present at the Synaxis of the Primates of the Local Orthodox Churches that was held in Chambésy (Switzerland) from January 21 to 27, 2016. Therefore, any attempt to legalize the Ukrainian schismatics by the state authorities should be strongly condemned by all the primates of the Local Orthodox Churches.

Patriarch Irinej of Serbia wrote two letters to the Ecumenical Patriarch, advocating that the provision of a new autocephaly is possible only with the consent of all local Orthodox Churches. According to Sedmitza.ru (Translation by Pravoslavie.ru),

“In these letters, it was very clearly stated that the granting of autocephaly cannot be the prerogative the Patriarchate of Constantinople alone, that new autocephalies must be created only with the consent of all the Local Orthodox Churches, as the Holy Synod of Antioch also said in its recent statement.”

Pat. Irinej also warned the Patriarchate of Constantinople against making such major decisions unilaterally, because “it will not bring harmony and peace to the Ukrainian land, but, on the contrary, will cause new divisions and new schisms.”

The Holy Synod of Antioch, the oldest Orthodox Church, and actually the very first place where the disciples of Christ were even called “Christians” weighed in on the issue as well and they had several things to say:

“The fathers examined the general Orthodox situation. They stressed that the Church of Antioch expresses her deep worries about the attempts to change the boundaries of the Orthodox Churches through a new reading of history. She considers that resorting to a unilateral reading of history does not serve Orthodox unity. It rather contributes to the fueling of the dissensions and quarrels within the one Church. Thus, the Church of Antioch refuses the principle of establishing parallel jurisdictions within the canonical boundaries of the Patriarchates and the autocephalous Churches as a way to solve conflicts, or as a de facto situation in the Orthodox world.

To summarize, this move by Constantinople is not being warmly received by many, many people. Most of the local Churches are on record giving their reaction to this process. In brief, here is the list most of the Local Churches and a one or two word summary of their reactions.

Patriarchate of Georgia: Unilateral action is wrong; Constantinople and Moscow must cooperate and find a solution together.

Patriarchate of Jerusalem: recognizes Ukraine as a canonical territory of the Russian Orthodox Church alone, as do all other local Churches

Patriarchate of Alexandria and all Africa: The Church does not bow to politicians. Moscow-led church is the only canonical Church in Ukraine.

Archbishop of Cyprus: Decries the Ukrainian situation but offered to mediate a discussion between Moscow and Constantinople

Bulgarian Patriarchate: Interference of the State in Church affairs leads to serious and negative consequences for both.

Polish Orthodox Church: Metropolitan Sawa called for a council of Orthodox ruling hierarchs to discuss this situation.

Estonian Orthodox Church: Condemns Constantinople’s actions in Ukraine.

Greek Archdiocese of America: Supports Constantinople’s actions in Ukraine.

The Orthodox Church of Greece (Metropolitan Seraphim of Piraeus quoted): “Schismatics, as we know, are not the Church, and communion with them is forbidden by the Divine and holy canons and the Apostolic and Ecumenical Councils. Why then this persistence of the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew in recognizing schismatics as an autocephalous Church? To provoke schisms and divisions in the one universal and Apostolic Church of Christ?”

Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR): Ceased commemoration of Constantinople, ceased concelebration with Constantinople.

This issue has also rocked the secular geopolitical world.

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