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Dmitry Orlov, author of “Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects,” explains Ukraine crisis in a recent podcast

Fascinating podcast and well worth listening.

Orlov discusses the Ukraine crisis in very logical and simple terms. Peak Prosperity explains…

Having lived in the former USSR before immigrating to the US, Dmitry Orlov has an invaluable perspective on both the US and Russian perspectives, as well as Ukraine.

With the western propaganda flying thick and heavy, it’s more important than ever to cut through the chaff and learn what we can about the most important geopolitical realignment (and renewed tensions) in recent memory.

Some important highlights of the interview…

On Russia’s place in the world:

Well, look, Russia is a place that’s extremely dynamic as changing response to challenging environment, to changed environment, very popular throughout the world, at peace with most of the world, even with nations that are at war with each other, both sides will still talk to Russia and have friendly relations. Russia has a splendid relationship with both Israel and Iran for instance.

On how the U.S. is handling today’s dynamic world order:

The United States is a nation that can’t get anything together, can’t get anything on, not education, not healthcare, nothing. It’s basically sinking into a cesspool of its own making it can’t respond at all. And now, it is basically being shown up to be quite incompetent in playing this international game. Now, what happens if you can’t play a game by the rules is you’re penalized and you forfeit the game. So, either the US leadership will learn how to play by the rules or they forfeit. I see those are as the only two real outcomes.

On some basic differences between American mentality and Russian mentality:

There’s a difference to how the Russians approach the world and how the Americans approach the world. So, for instance, Americans like to threaten. If you don’t do this, then we will do X, Y and Z. That’s a typical American behavior.

That’s not something that the Russians would ever do because they don’t threaten, they just act because if you threaten, then you take away the element of surprise which is very important. The other thing is Americans refuse to talk to their enemies, they won’t negotiate with terrorists, they won’t do X, Y and Z and can’t be reasoned with at all. You can just listen to them and do what they say or they’ll bomb you whereas the Russians always talk to their enemies. Russia keeps the channels of communication open.

On the effects that western threats and trash talking have on Russia: 

And the other thing is that all of this endless trash talking is very detrimental to the business of democracy and there’s been a constant stream of basically garbage emanating from the west, some of it social media, some of it through the old fashioned press. But, just basically all kinds of lies and disinformation and slander, which makes the tedious business of diplomacy establishing various links at various levels very difficult, if not impossible. So there’s just this incredible level of disgust with their, as they say, partners in the west in Moscow and the result is they’re not really eager to talk anymore. They’re not very interested in communicating. They’re far more interested in acting. So, what we’ll probably see is a constant stream of surprises coming from Russia that will be completely unannounced and not predicted by anyone.

Meet Dmitry Orlov, via Wikipedia:

Dmitry Orlov is a Russian-American engineer and a writer on subjects related to “potential economic, ecological and political decline and collapse in the United States,” something he has called “permanent crisis”. Orlov believes collapse will be the result of huge military budgets, government deficits, an unresponsive political system and declining oil production.

Orlov was born in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) and moved to the United States at the age of 12. He has a BS in Computer Engineering and an MA in Applied Linguistics. He was an eyewitness to the collapse of the Soviet Union over several extended visits to his Russian homeland between the late 1980s and mid-1990s.

In 2005 and 2006 Orlov wrote a number of articles comparing the collapse-preparedness of the U.S. and the Soviet Union published on small Peak Oil related sites. Orlov’s article “Closing the ‘Collapse Gap’: the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US” was very popular at EnergyBulletin.Net.

Orlov’s book Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects, published in 2008, further details his views.

Discussing the book in 2009, in a piece in The New Yorker, Ben McGrath wrote that Orlov describes “superpower collapse soup” common to both the U.S. and the Soviet Union: “a severe shortfall in the production of crude oil, a worsening foreign-trade deficit, an oversized military budget, and crippling foreign debt.” Orlov told interviewer McGrath that in recent months financial professionals had begun to make up more of his audience, joining “back-to-the-land types,” “peak oilers,” and those sometimes derisively called “doomers”.

He continues to write regularly on his “Club Orlov” blog and at EnergyBulletin.Net.

References:

http://www.peakprosperity.com/podcast/89249/dmitry-orlov-russias-patience-wearing-thin

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