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BREAKING: Russia calls Trump’s bluff – Lavrov says US afraid of attacking North Korea

Lavrov cited the model of mutually assured destruction, which ultimately prevented nuclear conflict during the Cold War era.

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Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has dramatically called the bluff of the US President who just hours ago threatened North Korea with regime change after North Korea delivered a strongly worded rebuttal of Trump’s UN speech at the General Assembly.

North Korea warns “mentally deranged” Trump that rockets will inevitably visit the US mainland (FULL VIDEO)

The Tweet repeated a slightly modified version of Trump’s “Rocket Man” insult.

However, while many are panicking over a war of words between nuclear powers, Sergey Lavrov has stated that the “mutually assured destruction” model of deterrence will ultimately work out in the interests of peace.

The Russian Foreign Minister stated,

“Americans won’t strike Korea, because not only do they suspect, but know for sure that Pyongyang has nuclear weapons”.

He continued,

“Regarding this issue, President Putin has repeatedly said it was impossible to imagine that the US or someone else has 100 percent information on all of the (nuclear) objects”.

This remark implies that Russia believes North Korea’s nuclear capacity to be stronger than many believe it to be. This is crucial as no country is fully aware of the specific nature of North Korea’s nuclear weapons capacity.

He added words of extra caution however, given the unpredictable nature of the current US President.

Lavrove said,

“…the situation could spiral out of control, so that thousands, dozens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands innocent people will suffer in South Korea, as well as in the North, certainly in Japan, with Russia and China nearby too”.

The deeply irresponsible remarks made by Donald Trump, threatening to completely destroy North Korea have many worried, but Russia’s Foreign Minister seems assured that the US is too scared to attack a country that can fight back with nuclear weapons.

This is in line with previous remarks of  Russian President Vladimir Putin who reminded the world during the recent Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok, that North Korea’s weapons programme is a natural result of the very legitimate fears that if defenceless, North Korea could be invaded in the way the US invaded Iraq in 2003 and Libya in 2011.

Two Koreas–One Road: The future of cooperation between North Korea, South Korea and Russia

Sergey Lavrov previously referred to the war of words between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un as a fight between children in a kindergarten.

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Tommy Jensen
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Worth nothing against F35.

George Orwell
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I think Lavrov’s statement characterising the threats exchanged by Kim and Trump as fight between children in kindergarden, irresponsible. First of all Russia and China should have vetoed any UNSC resolutions against DPRK. Second of all they should have issued a joint statement notifying the rogue nation USA, in no uncertain terms, that any attempt to attack DPRK, would be considered as an attack against Russia and China requiring full retaliatory response. The fact that Russia did not do any of the above shows how compromised Russia really is. It’s economic model following the IMF’s and US’s Treasury Department playbook,… Read more »

GeorgeG
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You have chosen an appropriate pseudonym. Armchair generals who claim to be smarter than Putin or Lavrov or Shoigu ceased to be entertaining long ago.

George Orwell
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You are lame my friend so I am not going to waste my time responding to you. Just read my response to JP London to get educated

Terry Ross
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You should put yourself up for election in Russia and see how the Russian people feel about your ideas………
President Putin and his team are simply a reflection of the aspirations of the Russian people.. Perhaps you could offer something better to them…. 😉

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Terry Ross I have no aspirations to run for President of Russia. I do however hope that the Communist party of Russia wins the next elections, and be able to stop the corruption, dismantle the fifth column, arrest the oligarchs kleptocrsts, and Plutocrats who became billionaires overnight during the drunkard Yeltsin predidency, who put on the auction block all the public assets of the USDR, for pennies on the dollar for local and foreign investor thieves. Nationalize the private thieving companies, kick out the Rothschild banks and establish a Central Bank that prints it’s own money independent of foreign influence… Read more »

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Sounds like Bush Jnr. is your script writer – decades out of touch with an IQ below 100.

George Orwell
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Le Ruscino you are dumber than a bag of nails. Read my answer to JP London to learn something.

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You are really ignorant. Both Russia and China have stated that they would not tolerate a foreign power attacking DPRK except in self-defense. ONLY if DPRK fires first, then DPRK is on it’s own. “If the US and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.” “China will stop America if it attacks North Korea first” “Both Russia and China condemned North Korea’s missile test. But both countries firmly ruled out the use of force as a solution to… Read more »

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Well said .Unfortunately I do believe that Trump is now part of the swamp he swore to eliminate.

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Hahaha PJ London the only ignorant here it’s you reciting sound bites from the whore MSM. Russia and China as I have stated are compromised. Therefore ameanable to gross scale extortion, sanctions, coersion, blackmail etc by the syndicate of organized crime called US government, this collection of thugs, mobsters, racketeers and global terrorists. Russia and China have zero leverage against the rogue nation USA, which can sanction them with impunity if they do not do as they are told. And China and Russia with their tails between their legs oblidge. And so the rest of the vassal nations of the… Read more »

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Trump is not the only one who take his medication regularly.

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“Lavrov’s statement characterising the threats exchanged by Kim and Trump as fight between children in kindergarden, irresponsible”

I THINK HE IS SPOT ON – EXACTLY RIGHT. THEY ARE ON THE SAME MENTAL LEVEL.

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This is a thinly veiled warning to US forces in Syria. ‘but Russia’s Foreign Minister seems assured that the US is too scared to attack a country that can fight back with nuclear weapons.’

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Hey, I have a dog in this hunt!

If Trump bombs North Korea they will in turn wipe out South Korea, the source of any spare parts I may need for my aging Hyundai.

Tommy Jensen
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So this is the only thing you are concerned about, yourself 😉 ?

Bart_in_Va
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No, that was sarcasm.

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“Sergey Lavrov previously referred to the war of words between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un as a fight between children in a kindergarten.”

It is interesting to see the comments on Trumps Twitterfeed to his threat against Kim and NK…many people seem to agree with Lavrov:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/911789314169823232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Ftheduran.com%2Fbreaking-russia-calls-trumps-bluff-lavrov-says-us-afraid-attacking-north-korea%2F

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He is also very aware of that NK doesn’t have a any nukes – neither does US or Russia. Show me one shred of evidence of a nuclear explosion – ever. And please not Hiroshima/Nagasaki, they were fire bombed just like any significant city in Japan built of wood & paper. No ground zero – no nothing.

This is just a charade to keep the sheeple at bay.

Tommy Jensen
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Obama
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Trump is a disgrace for America. America should get rid of him asap.

Tommy Jensen
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Who says we are bluffing?
USA is the most powerful and rich nation in the world and if we say we wanna wipe NK off the map we are gonna do it and nobody I repeat nobody is gonna stop us, not even Cuba with Fidel could kick us out.

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US confirms pullout from INF treaty, Moscow will respond if missiles placed in Europe – deputy FM

Moscow will respond to possible attempts to place short and intermediate range nuclear-capable missiles in Europe if the US decides to go on with this plan.

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Washington has confirmed its decision to withdraw from the INF treaty is final, Russia’s deputy foreign minister said, adding that Moscow will ‘take measures’ if American missiles that threaten its security are placed in Europe.

“Washington publicly announced its plans to withdraw from the treaty (the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces) already in October. Through the high-level bilateral channels it was confirmed to us that this decision was final and wasn’t an attempt to initiate dialogue,” Sergey Ryabkov told the Kommersant newspaper.

The Deputy FM said that Moscow will respond to possible attempts to place short and intermediate range nuclear-capable missiles in Europe if the US decides to go on with this plan.

“We’ll be forced to come up with effective compensating measures. I’d like to warn against pushing the situation towards the eruption of new ‘missile crises.’ I am convinced that no sane country could be interested in something like this,” he said.

Russia isn’t threatening anybody, but have the necessary strength and means to counter any aggressor.
Back in October, President Donald Trump warned that Washington was planning unilateral withdrawal from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty because “Russia has not adhered to the agreement.” The US leader also promised that the country would keep boosting its nuclear arsenal until Russia and China “come to their senses.”

Earlier this month, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that Washington will suspend its obligations under the treaty within 60 days if Russia does not “return to compliance.”

Signed in late 1988, the INF agreement was considered a milestone in ending the arms race between the US and the USSR.

In recent years, Moscow and Washington have repeatedly accused each other of violating the INF deal. While the US has alleged that Russia has developed missiles prohibited by the treaty, Russia insists that the American anti-missile systems deployed in Eastern Europe can actually be used to launch intermediate-range cruise missiles.

The deputy FM said that Washington “never made a secret” of the fact that its INF treaty pullout “wasn’t so much about problems between the US and Russia, but about the desire of the Americans to get rid of all restrictions that were inconvenient for them.”

The US side expressed belief that the INF deal “significantly limits the US military’s capabilities to counter states with arsenals of medium-range and shorter-range ground-based missiles,” which threaten American interests, he said. “China, Iran and North Korea” were specifically mentioned by Washington, Ryabkov added.

“I don’t think that we’re talking about a new missile crisis, but the US plans are so far absolutely unclear,” Mikhail Khodarenok, retired colonel and military expert, told RT, reminding that the Americans have avoided any type of “meaningful discussion” with Moscow in regards to its INF deal pullout.

While “there’ll be no deployment of [US missiles] in Europe any time soon,” Moscow should expect that Washington would try to void other agreements with Russia as well, Khodarenok warned.

The INF deal “just stopped being beneficial for the US. Next up are all the other arms control treaties. There’ll be no resistance from the NATO allies [to US actions],” he said.

“The neocons who run Trump’s foreign policy never have liked arms reduction treaties,” former Pentagon official Michael Maloof told RT. “The new START treaty which comes up for renewal also could be in jeopardy.”

“The risk of a new nuclear buildup is really quite obvious” if the US withdrawals from the INF treaty, Dan Smith, the director of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, told RT.

“I think the relations between the great powers – the US and Russia as well as the US and China – are more difficult than they’ve been for a long time,” he added.

However, with Washington having indicated that it wants China to be part of the new deal, “there are still possibilities for negotiations and agreement,” according to Smith. Nonetheless, he warned that following this path will demand strong political will and tactical thinking from the leadership of all three countries.

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US Pressures Germany To Ditch Huawei Over ‘Security Concerns’

This news will likely not go over well in Beijing, which is still struggling with the US and Canada over the arrest of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver.

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First it was Australia, New Zealand and Japan, now the US is pressing the German government to refuse to use equipment manufactured by Chinese telecom giant Huawei as Europe’s largest economy seeks to build out its 5G infrastructure.

According to Bloomberg, a US delegation met on Friday with German Foreign Ministry officials in Berlin to talk about the security risks presented by Huawei’s equipment, which the US says is vulnerable to spying. The meeting in Germany follows a report from late last month claiming the US had launched an “extraordinary outreach campaign” to warn its allies against using Huawei equipment (while its vulnerability to Chinese spying has been cited as the reason to avoid Huawei, it’s also worth noting that the US and China are locked in a battle for who will dominate the global 5G space…a battle that Huawei is currently winning).

Germany is set to hold an auction early next year to find a supplier to help expand its 5G network. The Berlin meeting took place one day after Deutsche Telekom said it would reexamine its decision to use Huawei equipment.

US officials are optimistic that their warnings are getting a hearing, though any detailed talks are in early stages and no concrete commitments have been made, according to one of the people.

The US pressure on Germany underscores increased scrutiny of Huawei as governments grapple with fears that the telecom-equipment maker’s gear is an enabler for Chinese espionage. The Berlin meeting took place a day after German carrier Deutsche Telekom AG said it will re-evaluate its purchasing strategy on Huawei, an indication that it may drop the Chinese company from its list of network suppliers.

France is also reportedly considering further restrictions after adding Huawei products to its “high alert” list. The US has already passed a ban preventing government agencies from using anything made by Huawei. But the telecoms equipment provider isn’t taking these threats to its business lying down.

U.S. warnings over espionage are a delicate matter in Germany. Revelations over the scale of the National Security Agency’s signals intelligence, including reports of tapping Merkel’s mobile phone, are still fresh in Berlin five years after they came to light.

Huawei is pushing back against the accusations. The company’s rotating chairman warned this week that blacklisting the Chinese company without proof will hurt the industry and disrupt the emergence of new wireless technology globally. Ken Hu, speaking at a Huawei manufacturing base in Dongguan, cited “groundless speculation,” in some of the first public comments since the shock arrest of the company’s chief financial officer.

This news will likely not go over well in Beijing, which is still struggling with the US and Canada over the arrest of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver. In an editorial published Sunday, the Global Times, an English-language mouthpiece for the Communist Party, warned that China should retaliate against any country that – like Australia – takes a hard line against Huawei. So, if you’re a German citizen in Beijing, you might want to consider getting the hell out of Dodge.

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Understanding the Holodomor and why Russia says nothing

A descendant of Holodomor victims takes the rest of us to school as to whether or not Russia needs to shoulder the blame.

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One of the charges that nationalist Ukrainians often lodge against their Russian neighbors is that the Russian government has never acknowledged or formally apologized to Ukraine for the “Holodomor” that took place in Ukraine in 1932-1933. This was a man-made famine that killed an estimated seven to 10 million Ukrainians , though higher estimates claim 12.5 million and lower ones now claim 3.3 million.

No matter what the total was, it amounts to a lot of people that starved to death. The charge that modern-day Russia ought to apologize for this event is usually met with silence, which further enrages those Ukrainians that believe that this issue must be resolved by the Russian acknowledgement of responsibility for it. Indeed, the prime charge of these Ukrainians is that the Russians committed a genocide against the Ukrainian people. This is a claim Russia denies.

To the outside observer who does not know this history of Russia and Ukraine’s relationship, and who does not know or understand the characteristics of the Soviet Union, this charge seems as simple and laid out as that of the Native Americans or the blacks demanding some sort of recompense or restitution for the damages inflicted on these societies through conquest and / or slavery. But we discovered someone who had family connections involved in the Holodomor, and who offers her own perspective, which is instructive in why perhaps the Russian Federation does not say anything about this situation.

Scene in Kharkiv with dead from the famine 1932-33 lying along the street.

The speaker is Anna Vinogradova, a Russian Israeli-American, who answered the question through Quora of “Why doesn’t Russia recognize the Holodomor as a genocide?” She openly admits that she speaks only for herself, but her answer is still instructive. We offer it here, with some corrections for the sake of smooth and understandable English:

I can’t speak for Russia and what it does and doesn’t recognize. I can speak for myself.

I am a great-granddaughter of a “Kulak” (кулак), or well-to-do peasant, who lived close to the Russia/Ukraine border.

The word “кулак” means “fist” in Russian, and it wasn’t a good thing for a person to be called by this label. A кулак was an exploiter of peasants and a class enemy of the new state of workers and poor peasants. In other words, while under Communism, to be called a кулак was to bring a death sentence upon yourself.

At some point, every rural class enemy, every peasant who wasn’t a member of a collective farm was eliminated one way or another.

Because Ukraine has very fertile land and the Ukrainian style of agriculture often favors individual farms as opposed to villages, there is no question that many, many Ukrainian peasants were considered class enemies like my great grandfather, and eliminated in class warfare.

I have no doubt that class warfare included starvation, among other things.

The catch? My great grandfather was an ethnic Russian living in Russia. What nationality were the communists who persecuted and eventually shot him? They were of every nationality there was (in the Soviet Union), and they were led by a Ukrainian, who was taking orders from a Georgian.

Now, tell me, why I, a descendant of an unjustly killed Russian peasant, need to apologize to the descendants of the Ukrainians who killed him on the orders of a Georgian?

What about the Russian, Kazakh golodomor (Russian rendering of the same famine)? What about the butchers, who came from all ethnicities? Can someone explain why it’s only okay to talk about Ukrainian victims and Russian persecutors? Why do we need to rewrite history decades later to convert that brutal class war into an ethnic war that it wasn’t?

Ethnic warfare did not start in Russia until after WWII, when some ethnicities were accused of collaboration with the Nazis and brutal group punishments were implemented. It was all based on class up to that time.

The communists of those years were fanatically internationalist. “Working people of all countries, unite!” was their slogan and they were fanatical about it.

As for the crimes of Communism, Russia has been healing this wound for decades, and Russia’s government has made its anticommunist position very clear.

This testimony is most instructive. First, it points out information that the charge of the Holodomor as “genocide!” neatly leaves out. In identifying the internationalist aspects of the Soviet Union, Ukraine further was not a country identified as somehow worthy of genocidal actions. Such a thought makes no sense, especially given the great importance of Ukraine as the “breadbasket” of the Soviet Union, which it was.

Secondly, it shows a very western-style of “divide to conquer” with a conveniently incendiary single-word propaganda tool that is no doubt able to excite any Ukrainian who may be neutral to slightly disaffected about Russia, and then after that, all Ukrainians are now victims of the mighty evil overlords in Moscow.

How convenient is this when the evil overlords in Kyiv don’t want their citizens to know what they are doing?

We saw this on Saturday – taken to a very high peak when President Petro Poroshenko announced the new leading “Hierarch” of the “Ukrainian National Church” and said not one single word about Christ, but only:

“This day will go down in history as the day of the creation of an autocephalous Orthodox church in Ukraine… This is the day of the creation of the church as an independent structure… What is this church? It is a church without Putin. It is a church without Kirill, without prayer for the Russian authorities and the Russian army.”

But as long as Russia is made the “problem”, millions of scandalized Ukrainians will not care what this new Church actually does or teaches, which means it is likely to teach just about anything.

Russia had its own Holodomor. The history of the event shows that this was a result of several factors – imposed socialist economics on a deeply individualized form of agrarian capitalism (bad for morale and worse for food production), really inane centralized planning of cropland use, and a governmental structure that really did not exist to serve the governed, but to impose an ideology on people who really were not all that interested in it.

Personal blame might well lay with Stalin, a Georgian, but the biggest source of the famine lay in the structures imposed under communism as a way of economic strategy. This is not Russia’s fault. It is the economic model that failed.

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